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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: Found Sonnar 100/3.5 in local shop |
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Orio wrote:
I found a MM version mint copy of Contax Sonnar 100mm f/3.5 in the "local" shop. I say "local" because it's really in Modena so about 80 km from here  but it's about the closest I can find for used manual lenses 
This little slow lens, has two particularities:
- it is quite rare to find, as it was in production only for a little time
- it has the best MTF at 40 lines per millimeter of all the Contax teles, including the Planar 2/135 and Planar 2/100. In other words, it's the sharpest of all Contax teles.
Given the good price and the discount I obtained (free UPS shipping), I bought it. So now I have all three Contax 100mm lenses. Which is quite stupid, but - collecting lenses is not the smartest thing to do, anyway
Tomorrow it should be here, I will report.
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Richard_D wrote:
Congratulations - I look forward to seeing the results.
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Attila wrote:
Wow! Congrats!
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poilu wrote:
congrats!
this one is on my buying list but it's quite rare
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LucisPictor wrote:
Wow, Orio! Congratulations. A good start for 2008! 
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Orio
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Orio wrote:
I found a page with some image samples. Quite poor samples I have to say, dark and badly complsed and focused. Seems however to be the only one page available with samples from this lens. A gap to fill here Attila
This however is the AE version, mine will be a MM:
http://web.mac.com/mattn21/iWeb/2dachsies/Sonnar%20100mm%20F3.5.html
Samples like these don't tell anything about a lens.
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Attila wrote:
Come on make nice tests and publish in gallery! Many thanks in advance!
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patrickh wrote:
Orio - good find and you know we cant wait to see what you do with this one too
patrickh
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Hooper wrote:
congrats! as you say, those samples don't have the best composition but they are pretty sharp with really nice colour reproduction and contrast!! Look forward to seeing your images  |
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Jesito wrote:
Congrats, Orio!
Enjoy it!
Best regards.
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peterm1 wrote:
I am stunned by the quality of these Zeiss lenses. I had not thought much about them before but their results are brilliant and their build quality and design is lovely.
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Orio
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Holy cow!!!!!!!!
What lens did I buy?
whole scene resized f/5.6:
crop of 100% f/5.6, not sharpened:
whole scene resized wide open:
(hold yourself strong now)
crop of 100% wide open, not sharpened:
and ISO 400 on a crappy day!
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Richard_D
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Richard_D wrote:
That's impressive!
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Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
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poilu
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
Congrats Orio
You try to play the surprised but you already knew before just by looking the mtf
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Orio
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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Congrats Orio
You try to play the surprised but you already knew before just by looking the mtf |
but I was not expecting it so sharp wide open. It's really on par with the best Leicas.
Only problem, it's a sunlight lens. There where you live, you could use it all 12 months. Here, for 3-4 months it's nearly unuseable.
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KhanX wrote:
I'll wait for the pictures from this lens 
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cogitech wrote:
Orio,
Do you have any links to other info, resources, MTFs, etc. about this lens? I have one on the way and I'd like to read more about it. |
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poilu
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poilu wrote:
you can find mtf data from Zeiss
http://www.zeiss.com/C12567A8003B58B9/Contents-Frame/8401A54783ED1154C12570F90049667D
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Orio
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Orio wrote:
The MTF is linked by poilu above, I hope to be able to set up a sample page soon, today was too dark to use that lens for my purpose.
Yes the info on this lens is very scarce, because the lens itself is, if not really rare, at least much uncommon to find.
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Laurence wrote:
Orio wrote: (hold yourself strong now)
crop of 100% wide open, not sharpened
I could NOT hold myself strong. Seriously, I vocalized the word "Damn!" and spilled a bit of water from my cup onto my legs!
OUTRAGEOUSLY sharp. Gosh, you have so many "sleeper" lenses, how are you ever going to give them all you have?
Beautiful find, Orio!
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cogitech wrote:
I know the page, but cannot find the lens there. The Hasselblad C/CF is a Planar, wheres the C-Y is a Sonnar and is not listed. |
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Orio
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| Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:44 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
The link to the PDF is on the German page only.
The English page does not feature it.
Please look here on the German page:
http://www.zeiss.de/C12567A8003B0478/ContentsWWWIntern/7D331E26BEFDD6F9C12570F500370493
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Thanks! |
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karabud wrote:
Are there any users of this lens ?
I`m thinking to buy this one(ae version) and sell sonnar 135/2.8...but first i must know about performance of this lens comparing to 85, 135 sonnar ae and 90/3.5 voigtlander...can somebody help ?
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Orio wrote:
About comparison with the 135 Sonnar, I replied to your private message.
About the Sonnar 85, both lenses are very sharp, the 3.5/100 however is super sharp wide open, the 85 is very sharp wide open too but it needs one stop down (to f/4) to reach the super sharpness of the 3.5/100.
As for the Voigt 3.5/90, it reach the super sharpness around f/5.6. At wide open and at f/4 it has very good sharpness, but it is not as super sharp as the 3.5/100 wide open.
On the plus side for the Voigt are the Apo control (not 100% perfect however) and the close focusing distance.
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