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lulalake
Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 1191 Location: Near Austin Texas
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:07 am Post subject: From the first few shots with the "new" Graflex 4x |
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lulalake wrote:
First ones. 165mm Ilex (Graflex lens) at F 4.5. Processed in coffee. My focus was a little off but it worked OK.
Jules |
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mmelvis
Joined: 24 May 2010 Posts: 1326 Location: Florida,USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:05 am Post subject: |
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mmelvis wrote:
How long did you process the film in coffee and what fixer did you use? |
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lulalake
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:18 am Post subject: |
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lulalake wrote:
mmelvis wrote: |
How long did you process the film in coffee and what fixer did you use? |
33 minutes, in the developer (Coffee, vitamin C, and some anti-fogging benzotriazole), 1 agitation every 2 min, acid stop bath, standard quick fixer, wash 15 min, end with wetting agent.
I think that 25 min would have been better for shadow and highlight detail.
Jules |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:51 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I think it's a fantastic shot, Jules! Love the lighting, the sepia tones, and if
the focus is off, it isn't off by much. Well done!
Is there a pic of this Graflex of yours around here somewhere?
Seems like you have a thread where you give cookbook directions (as to
what kind of coffee, etc) on this developing, I need to try this! |
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lulalake
Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 1191 Location: Near Austin Texas
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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lulalake wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
I think it's a fantastic shot, Jules! Love the lighting, the sepia tones, and if
the focus is off, it isn't off by much. Well done!
Is there a pic of this Graflex of yours around here somewhere?
Seems like you have a thread where you give cookbook directions (as to
what kind of coffee, etc) on this developing, I need to try this! |
Hi Bill,
Much thanks. Yes I posted a shot of the camera. I just recently got it.
http://forum.mflenses.com/it-was-a-dark-and-stormy-night-really-t29275.html
The light in this shot is just outside light coming through the window. The Sepia tone is about scanning the negative (FP4+) as a color shot, not a B&W shot. In fact I desaturated it a bit as it was too strong for my taste.
I did a lengthy thread on B&W conversion thread but I’ve not written the adventures-in-coffee thread down as yet, he he. There are a number of process-with-coffee recipes out there but I have refined it a bit and will write it down and post it. It’s pretty sure fire and pretty forgiving in terms of temperature.
It takes me a day and a half or so because I brew up the coffee and the other ingredients the night before then let it sit overnight to cool down and let it settle.
I’ll write it up this week.
Thanks again
Jules |
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Ah yes, the one with the red bellows, I even commented on it. Well, I turned
60 last April so there goes my memory!
Wonderful results, Jules, and looking forward to your coffee thread. |
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mmelvis
Joined: 24 May 2010 Posts: 1326 Location: Florida,USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:31 am Post subject: |
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mmelvis wrote:
Thank you for the information. Great picture and I look forward to the write up on your coffee formula. |
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patrickh
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:08 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Coffee? Really?
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lulalake
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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lulalake wrote:
patrickh wrote: |
Coffee? Really?
patrickh |
Yep. It's an excellent developer. |
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CarbonR
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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CarbonR wrote:
It does have really great tones, is it the coffe that gives them out ? _________________ Cameras : Canon 5D, Pentax K100D, Pentax 6x7, Spotmatic
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lulalake
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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lulalake wrote:
CarbonR wrote: |
It does have really great tones, is it the coffe that gives them out ? |
Thanks much,
Yes. Coffee is a staining developer somewhat like the "Pyro" family of developers, Pyrogallol, pyrocatechol et al. They are known for their excellent shadow and highlight detail.
It's what really surprised me when first working with it.
Cheers and Happy La Fête Nationale
Jules |
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lulalake
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:32 am Post subject: |
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lulalake wrote:
The coffee developing process is in the "Darkroom" section
Jules |
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:11 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
That's a beautiful portrait Jules. WOW. What deepness in her gaze. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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lulalake
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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lulalake wrote:
Orio wrote: |
That's a beautiful portrait Jules. WOW. What deepness in her gaze. |
Orio,
Thanks very much. She is at the age where she is just about to become a woman and is considering many pretty serious issues that we all consider around that age.(along with considerations of what is the best color for her hair ribbons, of course)
I see her often in deep contemplation. Our evening meal conversation is now having moments that are a bit deeper than who had the coolest hair at school.
Cheers
Jules |
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
yeah, I can see.
I always say, gaze is at least 80% of any portrait. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
Beautiful photo, and beautiful development with the cafenol ... _________________ Paul
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