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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:04 pm Post subject: Canon EF-M Metering with non-EF Lenses |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Ok, I'm confused by this camera. I assumed the metering would work the same as on my EOS DSLRs.
Instead, with a Pentacon 135mm attached using either a chipped or non-chipped adapter, adjusting the aperture control on the camera affects the shutter speed. Therefore I cannot use the cameras meter. Unless I set the cameras aperture to the same aperture as I intend shooting with the lens, but this will slow things down considerably.
Any EF-M owners have knowledge? _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Cobalt60
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: Central Europe
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Cobalt60 wrote:
You will have to switch the camera to step-down metering. This is done by setting the aperture to 1.0 and leaving it there.
Now you can set the aperture at the lens and the shutter speed at the EF-M and it will show you if it thinks the settings are ok metering-wise.
Of course you have to make sure the aperture on the lens it set to "manual", too ... _________________ Visit the Yashica Information Site! |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Thanks, so I can only shoot in manual an not aperture priority?
Why F1? _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Cobalt60
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: Central Europe
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Cobalt60 wrote:
Because f1 enables step-down metering if no automatic lens is attached ... see it simply as a switch ...
Give it a try what happens when you set f1 and shutter on "A" and turn the aperture ring _________________ Visit the Yashica Information Site! |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:06 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Is this the official way of doing it or just the way others have found it works?
It's quite a handy camera isn't it. Shame the flash sync is only 1/90 though. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Cobalt60
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: Central Europe
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:08 am Post subject: |
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Cobalt60 wrote:
It's the official way ... "non-electric" lens + f1 enables step-down metering _________________ Visit the Yashica Information Site! |
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3460 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Is this the official way of doing it or just the way others have found it works?
It's quite a handy camera isn't it. Shame the flash sync is only 1/90 though. |
Now that you have had this camera for a while, what do you think of it? I have seen one at a good price and was thinking of buying it. _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
DigiChromeEd wrote: |
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Is this the official way of doing it or just the way others have found it works?
It's quite a handy camera isn't it. Shame the flash sync is only 1/90 though. |
Now that you have had this camera for a while, what do you think of it? I have seen one at a good price and was thinking of buying it. |
I love it!
Most of my M42 lenses work well with it except my 24mm Tak which causes the mirror to hang up until I unscrew the lens. My EF lenses are great to use with it. I even managed to find the dedicated flash for it.
I've just processed the 1st film so I'll post samples as soon as I get around to scanning.
They crop up quite often on the auction site for 10-20gbp. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3460 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:54 am Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
DigiChromeEd wrote: |
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Is this the official way of doing it or just the way others have found it works?
It's quite a handy camera isn't it. Shame the flash sync is only 1/90 though. |
Now that you have had this camera for a while, what do you think of it? I have seen one at a good price and was thinking of buying it. |
I love it!
Most of my M42 lenses work well with it except my 24mm Tak which causes the mirror to hang up until I unscrew the lens. My EF lenses are great to use with it. I even managed to find the dedicated flash for it.
I've just processed the 1st film so I'll post samples as soon as I get around to scanning.
They crop up quite often on the auction site for 10-20gbp. |
Thanks Martin. I've just picked one up on ebay for £22.50 in near mint condition. I hope the screen is as bright and as easy to focus as I've heard as my eyesight isn't as good as it used to be! _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
That's a reasonable price. Yes, the viewfinder is big and bright and the focus aids are very good.
Do you have any EF lenses? _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
That's a reasonable price. |
Reasonable? That's an absolute bargain! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Some seem to go for silly money. I bought one for 7gbp and another for 15gbp.
Cosmetically they were both good. The 1st one had a fault so it was returned. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3460 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
That's a reasonable price. Yes, the viewfinder is big and bright and the focus aids are very good.
Do you have any EF lenses? |
Yes, I do. I have a 50mm, 17-40mm, 24-105mm & a 70-200mm. _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I found myself using my EF lenses in favour of M42, simply because I can control them in-camera. I'd be interested to hear what lenses you prefer to use with it. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10973 Location: California
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
My sympathies regarding mirror hang with 24mm Tak on film/FF EOS cameras. Tragic imho, such a great lens, no question results would be phenomenal. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
The average price on German EBay for this cam in good condition is somewhat about €60-70,-! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
siriusdogstar wrote: |
My sympathies regarding mirror hang with 24mm Tak on film/FF EOS cameras. Tragic imho, such a great lens, no question results would be phenomenal. |
It still takes the pic, but the mirror stays up until the lens is unscrewed.
Carsten - That's still not a bad price for a good camera. It seems reasonable build. I'd still sooner have a Spotmatic for M42 lenses though and they're slightly cheaper. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3460 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
DigiChromeEd wrote: |
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Is this the official way of doing it or just the way others have found it works?
It's quite a handy camera isn't it. Shame the flash sync is only 1/90 though. |
Now that you have had this camera for a while, what do you think of it? I have seen one at a good price and was thinking of buying it. |
I love it!
Most of my M42 lenses work well with it except my 24mm Tak which causes the mirror to hang up until I unscrew the lens. My EF lenses are great to use with it. I even managed to find the dedicated flash for it.
I've just processed the 1st film so I'll post samples as soon as I get around to scanning.
They crop up quite often on the auction site for 10-20gbp. |
Martin
I tracked down a Canon GR-70 grip extension for the EF-M. It makes a huge difference to the handling of the camera especially if you have large hands. _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Carsten - That's still not a bad price for a good camera. It seems reasonable build. |
That's right. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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