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Ash
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 Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 10:16 pm Post subject: Suggestion needed on 50/58mm minolta MC |
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Ash wrote:
Hi,
After giving a lot of thought, I decided to go for Minolta 50mm or 58mm 1.4 MC and change its mount to sony A mount. I chose it over Takumar 50mm/1.4 for two reasons: 1) I want to practice changing mount  and (2) I have one spare M42 to sony adapter which I can use. I have few questions with my first endeavor:
1) Which is better: Minolta 50mm/1.4 MC or Minolta 58mm/1.4 MC ?
2) In each focal length which version is better PG or PF?
3) How difficult to change mount of these lenses? I know many people have converted minolta 58/1.2 PG to sony mount but I think every lens has its obstacle to overcome. So if anyone has converted this please let me know if they faced any difficulties with the conversion. |
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koji
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koji wrote:
The both lenses are quite good, but PG is slightly better I think.
You can check their lpm values here > http://www.pbase.com/kkawakami/rokkor_lens_resolutions
I have never done to convert them to Sony alpha mount, but I did convert some MC lenses to EF mount.
See > http://www.pbase.com/kkawakami/minolta_mc_to_ef_mount_conversions
It might be a little more difficult since you have to trim the lens base more than EF conversion, and
the mount sizes are similar. But if you have Alpha mount metal, it is hopeful.
Sorry for shameless self promotions, wish you luck to convert MC lens to alpha mount.
hope it helps a bit...
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Ash
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| Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Ash wrote:
Just won 50/1.4 PG so I guess discussion ends what lens to buy . Anyone have any idea how to convert it. Is it same as for minolta 58/1.2 to sony? Sorry for sounding like an idiot. This will be my first lens to convert and I guess it is natural to be nervous. |
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Ivan Lee
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| Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Ivan Lee wrote:
I have both lenses and I think that the 50 MC is sharper, but the 58 has slightly superior bokeh
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Minolta MC: Minolta MC 24/2.8 - Minolta MD 28/2 - Minolta MC 35/1.8 - Minolta MC 35/2.8 - Minolta MD 50/1.2 - Minolta MD Macro 50/3.5 - Minolta MD 100/2.5
Konica AR: Hexanon 28/3.5 - Hexanon 50/1.7 - Hexanon 57/1.4
M42: Industar 50-2 - CZ Pancolar 50/1.8
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Ash
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| Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Ash wrote:
Why cant we have best of both worlds !!
Any way lets see how this conversion works. wish me luck !! |
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Ivan Lee
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Ivan Lee wrote:
| koji wrote: |
The both lenses are quite good, but PG is slightly better I think.
You can check their lpm values here > http://www.pbase.com/kkawakami/rokkor_lens_resolutions
I have never done to convert them to Sony alpha mount, but I did convert some MC lenses to EF mount.
See > http://www.pbase.com/kkawakami/minolta_mc_to_ef_mount_conversions
It might be a little more difficult since you have to trim the lens base more than EF conversion, and
the mount sizes are similar. But if you have Alpha mount metal, it is hopeful.
Sorry for shameless self promotions, wish you luck to convert MC lens to alpha mount.
hope it helps a bit... |
Nice!! can someone explain me how to read these charts? I have some idea...but in japanese... 
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Minolta MC: Minolta MC 24/2.8 - Minolta MD 28/2 - Minolta MC 35/1.8 - Minolta MC 35/2.8 - Minolta MD 50/1.2 - Minolta MD Macro 50/3.5 - Minolta MD 100/2.5
Konica AR: Hexanon 28/3.5 - Hexanon 50/1.7 - Hexanon 57/1.4
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dnas
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 7:07 am Post subject: Re: Suggestion needed on 50/58mm minolta MC |
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dnas wrote:
| Ash wrote: |
1) Which is better: Minolta 50mm/1.4 MC or Minolta 58mm/1.4 MC ?
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Take a look at this thread:
http://forum.mflenses.com/super-takumar-50mm-f1-4-or-rokkor-58mm-1-4-t28217.html |
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Ash
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Ash wrote:
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| I have both lenses and I think that the 50 MC is sharper, but the 58 has slightly superior bokeh |
Can you put up any samples from these lenses? |
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woodrim
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woodrim wrote:
Good luck. I have the lens and consider myself rather clever, but have been considering for some time how to go about it cleanly.
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dnas
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dnas wrote:
| Ash wrote: |
| Ivan Lee wrote: |
| I have both lenses and I think that the 50 MC is sharper, but the 58 has slightly superior bokeh |
Can you put up any samples from these lenses? |
Test set up:
Back lit to make push the contrast performance.
100% crops, taken on a Panasonic G1.
centre:
MC Rokkor 58mm F1.4
MC Rokkor 50mm F1.4
Corner:
MC Rokkor 58mm F1.4
MC Rokkor 50mm F1.4
Stopped down corner:
MC Rokkor 58mm F1.4 @F1.4
MC Rokkor 58mm F1.4 @F4
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