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I remember a while back being pointed in the direction of a Minolta lens which was superb!! i mean really really good but i can't remember which one it was. I think it may be the 38mm but not sure and i can't remember what the widest aperture was either. Any clue's?
Is it the 38mm f2.8?
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Rokkor (manual - MD/MC) or A mount (AF) lens?
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Rokkor as it will be for my Lumix GF1.
I just remember seeing all these superb sharp images and thought that if i had the money i really aught to get one.
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Actually you can also mount Minolta/Sony A mount to your GF1. 
Maybe Rokkor 58/1.2? One of my dream lens.
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Excalibur wrote:
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Rokkor as it will be for my Lumix GF1.
I just remember seeing all these superb sharp images and thought that if i had the money i really aught to get one. |
erm was it cogitech and his F1.2 lens?
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Actually i think it may be 40mm f2?
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I would say my sharpest Minolta lens is the Minolta MD 85mm F2.
It is almost always in my bag when I have the Panasonic G1 with me.
See here:
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I have a Jupiter-9 for that focal length which is uber sharp!
I'm looking to go no larger than 50mm as the x2 crop is a bit of a nuisance.
Really i would like 24/28/35/40mm but high quality and a small, light lens so not to put too much of a strain on my GF1.
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40 mm? hexanon 1,8 is a very good one.
Leica M lenses go with your cam ? summicron 2/40 (or rokkor) is another very good.
Minolta 2/45, one more.
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Great! Thanks, i'll have a look
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| Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: Which is 'THE' Minolta lens to own? |
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bogolisk wrote:
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I remember a while back being pointed in the direction of a Minolta lens which was superb!! i mean really really good but i can't remember which one it was. I think it may be the 38mm but not sure and i can't remember what the widest aperture was either. Any clue's?
Is it the 38mm f2.8?
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I don't have them but I've read that:
- the 58mm 1.2 has mesmerizing bokeh.
- the 24mm 2.8 has leica-like sharpness.
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I have found a rather nice affordable MINOLTA- ROKKOR 50mm f1.4 at £59!
I have also got my eye on a S-M-C Takumar 50mm f1.4!
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The 58/1.2 has amazing bokeh and is very sharp. I need to test more but I think it's the most sharp before infinity. These pics were taken with my EOS 500D.
Here is a shot from 2 meters at ISO 100 1/320 @ f8 (MC Rokkor-PG 58/1.2)
Here is an infinity shot at ISO 100 1/320 @ f8
And some beautiful bokeh from minimum focus distance at ISO 100 1/50 @ f1.2
I have my MD Rokkor-X 85/1.7 coming back from the shop soon and I'm eager to test it out. It is also revered as a magnificent lens.
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Arkku wrote:
The Rokkor 58mm f/1.2 is indeed superb, but unfortunately the prices have really gone up, probably due to spreading of the knowledge that it's easy to modify for modern DSLR mounts and the popularity of 4/3 systems.
Wide open:
Around f/2 to f/2.8:
(some more samples on flickr)
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Arkku wrote:
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| The 58/1.2 has amazing bokeh and is very sharp. I need to test more but I think it's the most sharp before infinity. |
It's also very sharp at infinity when properly focused. I spent several hours fine-tuning the infinity focus position by adding and removing individual layers of aluminium baking foil under the replacement mount, testing on stars wide open… =) |
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The S-M-C 1,4/50 is a great lens small and light.
And the rokkor 2/100?
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Your right it is expensive. I got very lucky and got a great deal on www.keh.com for $215. It was in BGN condition but came to me in very fine shape indeed. It had no caps but heh, for a BGN price what can I ask for.
I scored my 85 on a local craigslist ad for a great deal as well. Lucky I guess, but I sure had my eyes set on these two lenses.
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Arkku wrote:
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| Your right it is expensive. I got very lucky and got a great deal on www.keh.com for $215. It was in BGN condition but came to me in very fine shape indeed. |
I paid about 75 EUR for mine with stuck aperture (easily fixed) and otherwise good condition, but shortly after this lens gained some popularity due to lens conversions featured on some photography blogs and forums (including my guide to converting it… should have stocked up on these lenses before publishing =).
I think µ4/3 and other EVIL cameras may make even some lenses formerly “useless on digital” increasingly popular (and therefore pricey) as well, so better buy the interesting ones now, I think.
P. S. I edited some sample photos into my earlier post. |
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WOW! Yes that is indeed very sharp with really smoooooth bokeh!
Thanks peeps!
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Those are some nice samples Arkku. Love the colors on that first shot.
Yea if only you could buy a few more at 75 EUR!!! It seems to run close to the $500 mark on the average ebay auctions that I have seen. Quite pricey these days indeed.
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It seems to run close to the $500 mark on the average ebay auctions that I have seen. Quite pricey these days indeed. |
The sad thing is that I don't think it's quite worth that much; I think I'd rather go for the Sigmalux at that price. |
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Arkku, the portrait is beautiful!!!
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my_photography wrote:
| Arkku wrote: |
| natebarnz wrote: |
It seems to run close to the $500 mark on the average ebay auctions that I have seen. Quite pricey these days indeed. |
The sad thing is that I don't think it's quite worth that much; I think I'd rather go for the Sigmalux at that price. |
That is why until today I still have not gotten one. I have actually already look for it for over 2 years.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:44 am Post subject: Re: Which is 'THE' Minolta lens to own? |
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I remember a while back being pointed in the direction of a Minolta lens which was superb!! i mean really really good but i can't remember which one it was. I think it may be the 38mm but not sure and i can't remember what the widest aperture was either. Any clue's?
Is it the 38mm f2.8?
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I don't have them but I've read that:
- the 58mm 1.2 has mesmerizing bokeh.
- the 24mm 2.8 has leica-like sharpness.
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Actually, the Leica 24/2.8 is made by Minolta
I have the newer MD 24/2.8 Minolta, it's an amazing lens but not as good as the Leica/Minolta MC 24/2.8 version.
Another great lenses are the 16mm fish-eye (it's so sharp that is unfair), and the 28 f/2 (very sharp wide open)
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Arkku, stunning portrait with magical bokeh and lights!
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