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yadisl
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 Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:06 am Post subject: Leica 35/2.8 has swirly bokeh? |
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yadisl wrote:
I just have realized ...
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yadisl
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yadisl wrote:
Another sample ...
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yadisl
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| Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:08 am Post subject: |
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yadisl wrote:
But not pronounced in greater F-number
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hinnerker wrote:
Which Version of the Leica 35/2.8 do you talking about?
Some further Leica Lenses do have the Swirl in some situations.
For example a nearfield crop of Summilux 1.4/50mm
Also the Leica Makro Elmarit 2.8/60mm
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yadisl
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yadisl wrote:
I think this is quite early version ... a bit prone to flare.
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hinnerker
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hinnerker wrote:
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I think this is quite early version ... a bit prone to flare.
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Yes, its the early Leicaflex Version with external hood.
Thanks for information.
Here you can find the Years of production..
http://www.taunusreiter.de/Cameras/Leica_Lenses_Serial_Numbers.txt
So your copy is from 1964...
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yadisl
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yadisl wrote:
Thanks Henry!
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Orio wrote:
This swirliness should be something of the first version of Elmarit-R 2.8/35.
I have the last version, which is a different optical design, and it does not show swirliness. Here's an environmental portrait I took with my Elmarit 2.8/35 wide open:
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LucisPictor wrote:
Yes, this Elmarit shows - under certain circumstances - a swirly bokeh wide open.
As you wrote, once it is stopped down, the effect disappears.
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woodrim
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woodrim wrote:
All bokeh is gradually lost as any lens is stopped down and background goes into focus. Of course, this is basic. I like that swirly bokeh, and in fact would probably prefer the early model for that reason. I tend to like interesting and crazy bokeh. I see it as adding interest to a photo more so than distracting from the subject. I may be in the minority with that view.
You have an admirable collection of glass, Henry.
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Great Portrait Orio!
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