| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Tharos
Joined: 03 Nov 2009
Posts: 322
Location: Istanbul/TURKEY
|
 Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:48 am Post subject: Need Recommandation |
 |
|
Tharos wrote:
I need a SLR which is :
1) Very small and light, for everyday use.
2) Some kind of light measuring is a must, selenimum or battery no problem but it should work fine.
3) Lens can be fixed or changeable, no problem.
4) Aperture must be manually controlled. Shutter speed can be automatic like AV mode on digital cams.
5) Better be cheap
6) Good IQ
7) Did I say it should be light and small?
What would you recommend?
Thanks...
_________________
Camera : Yashica Electro 35 GS, Canon 450D, Konica C35 AF
28mm : Asahi Pentax SMC Takumar F3.5, Yashica ML F2.8
35mm : Distagon F2.8 (soon)
50mm : Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar F2,8 // aus Jena Pancolar F1.8 // SMC Tak F1.4 // Planar F1.7
55mm : Auto-Rikenon F1.8
58mm : Helios 44-3 F2
85mm : Jupiter 9 F2
135mm : Pentacon auto 6-blade F2.8 // Super Tak F3.5 // CZJ Sonnar F3.5 Zebra |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 10472
Location: Greece
Expire: 2019-08-29
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:56 am Post subject: |
|
|
poilu wrote:
Contax 167MT (on the way)
_________________
T* |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009
Posts: 5017
Location: UK
Expire: 2014-04-21
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:05 am Post subject: |
|
|
Excalibur wrote:
Well I'll start the ball rolling and would suggest an Olympus OM20...it's not my favourite camera but seems to fit the specs that you have posted.
_________________
Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
IANUS
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Posts: 276
Location: Germany
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:22 am Post subject: |
|
|
IANUS wrote:
| Quote: |
I need a SLR which is :
1) Very small and light, for everyday use. |
When size matters I take my Olympus Pen Ft. It is a crop camera since you get 18x24mm negs. If you want really big photos this might not be the way to go but for average picture sizes I can't complain.
Another plus are the lens sizes since the half frame lenses are much smaller than there full frame counterpart.
| Quote: |
| 2) Some kind of light measuring is a must, selenimum or battery no problem but it should work fine. |
The Ft has a light meter which works with 1,35V batteries. I am using zinc-air hearing aid batteries and it is fine - even for slides.
| Quote: |
| 3) Lens can be fixed or changeable, no problem. |
Lenses are interchangeable and ranging from 20mm to 800mm (but I haven't seen any of the long lenses around).
Standard lens is 1.8/38mm.
| Quote: |
| 4) Aperture must be manually controlled. Shutter speed can be automatic like AV mode on digital cams. |
Everything is manual - no Av mode
| Quote: |
5) Better be cheap
6) Good IQ
7) Did I say it should be light and small? |
No they are not cheap. I paid for my set of Pen Ft with 1.8/38mm, 2/70mm and 3.5/100mm about 250EUR which was a really good price back than. I don`t know the prices at the moment.
If you want to stay cheap and small with a fixed lens than take rangefinder into consideration. Something like Olympus 35RC - they are really small and can be had for a small amount of money. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Poolhall
Joined: 25 Feb 2008
Posts: 1296
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:23 am Post subject: |
|
|
Poolhall wrote:
Yashica FX-3 small and light very solid and well built cds meter but works also with no batteries if needed all manual operation takes c/y mount lenses and m42 with a cheap adapter  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
PaulC
Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Posts: 2318
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
PaulC wrote:
Pentax ME Super fits the bill. Someone somewhere said it was one of the smallest SLRs ever made. It has the full set of features and you can probably get one for $40 or $50 with the standard lens.
_________________
View or buy my photos at:
http://shutterstock.com/g/paulcowan |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007
Posts: 57865
Location: Hungary
Expire: 2025-11-18
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:09 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Attila wrote:
Konica FC-1,FT-1
_________________
-------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tharos
Joined: 03 Nov 2009
Posts: 322
Location: Istanbul/TURKEY
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:33 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Tharos wrote:
poilu : I am asking this for a friend. I have not received the 167MT yet, so I do not know if I can suggest that to him.
Poolhall : Does the same adaptor work for Contax cams? I did not know there was such an adaptor M42 to C/Y.
I forgot to mention but rangefinders are also an option, does that change a lot in the suggestions?
By the way thanks for all the suggestions, I will check them all.
_________________
Camera : Yashica Electro 35 GS, Canon 450D, Konica C35 AF
28mm : Asahi Pentax SMC Takumar F3.5, Yashica ML F2.8
35mm : Distagon F2.8 (soon)
50mm : Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar F2,8 // aus Jena Pancolar F1.8 // SMC Tak F1.4 // Planar F1.7
55mm : Auto-Rikenon F1.8
58mm : Helios 44-3 F2
85mm : Jupiter 9 F2
135mm : Pentacon auto 6-blade F2.8 // Super Tak F3.5 // CZJ Sonnar F3.5 Zebra |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
eeyore_nl
Joined: 09 Nov 2008
Posts: 837
Location: Netherlands
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
eeyore_nl wrote:
| PaulC wrote: |
| Pentax ME Super fits the bill. Someone somewhere said it was one of the smallest SLRs ever made. It has the full set of features and you can probably get one for $40 or $50 with the standard lens. |
Combine the ME Super with the 40mm pancake lens, and you have a very small combo.
_________________
Fujifilm X-Pro2 / Fujifilm X-T1 / some Sonnar & Takumar lenses |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tharos
Joined: 03 Nov 2009
Posts: 322
Location: Istanbul/TURKEY
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Tharos wrote:
IANUS : Pen FT is cool but expensive as you mentioned. Olympus 35RC is really interesting, I am checking that out now...
Any suggestions for rangefinders?
_________________
Camera : Yashica Electro 35 GS, Canon 450D, Konica C35 AF
28mm : Asahi Pentax SMC Takumar F3.5, Yashica ML F2.8
35mm : Distagon F2.8 (soon)
50mm : Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar F2,8 // aus Jena Pancolar F1.8 // SMC Tak F1.4 // Planar F1.7
55mm : Auto-Rikenon F1.8
58mm : Helios 44-3 F2
85mm : Jupiter 9 F2
135mm : Pentacon auto 6-blade F2.8 // Super Tak F3.5 // CZJ Sonnar F3.5 Zebra |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
soikka
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
Posts: 534
Location: Finland
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:53 pm Post subject: |
|
|
soikka wrote:
Olympus XA?
_________________
DSLR: K-5,K20d+Grip, Ist*Ds
Film: MZ-5n, LX, MX+winder, SuperA+winder, ME Super,
M-series: 28/2.8, 35/2, 40/2.8, 135/3.5, 75-150/4, A-series: 50/1.7, Super-Taks: 55/1.8, 105/2.8, S-M-C Taks: 28/3.5, 50/1.4, 85/1.8, Sigma SW2 24/2.8, Tamron SPs: 90/2.5(I), 180/2.5, 500/8, Rikenon XR 35-70/3.5, Cosinon 40/2.5, F-1.7x AF-adapter, Olympus XA |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008
Posts: 4045
Location: Netherlands
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Spotmatic wrote:
| eeyore_nl wrote: |
| PaulC wrote: |
| Pentax ME Super fits the bill. Someone somewhere said it was one of the smallest SLRs ever made. It has the full set of features and you can probably get one for $40 or $50 with the standard lens. |
Combine the ME Super with the 40mm pancake lens, and you have a very small combo. |
+1
_________________
Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009
Posts: 9096
Location: Houston, Texas
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
cooltouch wrote:
Since in #3 you mention the lens can be fixed, I'd recommend you consider the Olympus XA, even though it isn't an SLR. It meets all your other requirements. I have one. It's an outstanding shirt-pocketable picture-taker.
But if you want a compact SLR, yeah I'd be pointing toward an ME Super as well. An ME would meet your requirements, but it would be nice to have metered manual. That or one of the Olympus OMs. True, an OM-10 or OM-20 can be picked up for cheap, but the OM-2/2n would be a better choice, I believe.
_________________
Michael
My Gear List: http://michaelmcbroom.com/photo/gear.html
My Gallery: http://michaelmcbroom.com/gallery3/index.php/
My Flickr Page: https://www.flickr.com/photos/11308754@N08/albums
My Music: https://soundcloud.com/michaelmcbroom/albums
My Blog: http://michaelmcbroom.com/blogistan/ |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
spiralcity
Joined: 02 Oct 2008
Posts: 1207
Location: Chicago, U.S.A
|
| Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:21 pm Post subject: |
|
|
spiralcity wrote:
Nikon FG...
_________________
Nikons : F4-EM-FG-FE2-FA-EL-FTN-N2020-N70-F Nikkorex
Fujica: ST605N-ST701-ST705-ST705W-ST801-ST901-AZ1-AX-3
Chinon: CE4s-CM4s-CM5
Pentax: ME-Soptmatic
Ricoh:XR6
Pentax- K10D
Lenses- M42's-Nikon F mount, Pentax PK
FREE PHOTOGRAPHY COURSE |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
spiralcity
Joined: 02 Oct 2008
Posts: 1207
Location: Chicago, U.S.A
|
| Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
spiralcity wrote:
I just went back and checked my shelf to make sure I recommended the smallest most versatile camera I own. I noticed that my Pentax ME is slightly smaller than my FG, but just ever so slightly. The two cameras are almost the exaxct in size.
You can find a set-up like this for under 100.00 USD on the bay.
Here's a few pics:
_________________
Nikons : F4-EM-FG-FE2-FA-EL-FTN-N2020-N70-F Nikkorex
Fujica: ST605N-ST701-ST705-ST705W-ST801-ST901-AZ1-AX-3
Chinon: CE4s-CM4s-CM5
Pentax: ME-Soptmatic
Ricoh:XR6
Pentax- K10D
Lenses- M42's-Nikon F mount, Pentax PK
FREE PHOTOGRAPHY COURSE |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tharos
Joined: 03 Nov 2009
Posts: 322
Location: Istanbul/TURKEY
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:28 am Post subject: |
|
|
Tharos wrote:
spiralcity : That seems a great combo, thanks for the advice.
For now I am hunting Konica FC-1 (Attila'a advice) as I have many M42 lenses to go with it (receving the adapter to use M42 on Konica).
About a very light camera, I believe a rangefinder like RC35 will suit my needs, and that will be the next camera on my list. I will look for a bargain Nikon combo as well...
_________________
Camera : Yashica Electro 35 GS, Canon 450D, Konica C35 AF
28mm : Asahi Pentax SMC Takumar F3.5, Yashica ML F2.8
35mm : Distagon F2.8 (soon)
50mm : Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar F2,8 // aus Jena Pancolar F1.8 // SMC Tak F1.4 // Planar F1.7
55mm : Auto-Rikenon F1.8
58mm : Helios 44-3 F2
85mm : Jupiter 9 F2
135mm : Pentacon auto 6-blade F2.8 // Super Tak F3.5 // CZJ Sonnar F3.5 Zebra |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009
Posts: 5017
Location: UK
Expire: 2014-04-21
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:49 am Post subject: |
|
|
Excalibur wrote:
***For now I am hunting Konica FC-1***
The FT-1 is supposed to be more reliable in the electronics/electrical bits.
http://www.buhla.de/Foto/Konica/eFT-1Haupt.html
Buy the lens and get the FT-1 free erm
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KONICA-HEXANON-AR-50mm-F1-8-LENS-CAMERA-BODY-FT-1-FREE_W0QQitemZ170445137112QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CamerasPhoto_CameraAccessories_CameraLensesFilters_JN?hash=item27af5264d8
_________________
Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007
Posts: 7448
Location: near High Wycombe, UK
Expire: 2014-01-04
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:14 am Post subject: |
|
|
peterqd wrote:
The Pentax M range are the smallest and lightest SLRs I know of, so if this is the main priority I'd also go along with the ME Super. However metering faults are becoming very common and the K mount lenses are becoming expensive now because they mount directly on Pentax DSLRs.
As an alternative I'd like to suggest a Minolta XD-7/XD-11. I was surprised how small it is, only a wee bit larger than the ME Super. Minolta lenses are very good quality and inexpensive compared to Pentax and M42 lenses mount easily too. Some relative weights (without lens):
ME Super 455g
XD-7 580g
Spotmatic 644g
Pentax K2 722g
_________________
Peter - Moderator |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tharos
Joined: 03 Nov 2009
Posts: 322
Location: Istanbul/TURKEY
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Tharos wrote:
Excalibur : I was late on that, it is already gone... I will check out on FT-1 also
peterqd : Thanks for the comparison in weight, how do these cameras compare to rangefinder cameras like RC35 in weight?
_________________
Camera : Yashica Electro 35 GS, Canon 450D, Konica C35 AF
28mm : Asahi Pentax SMC Takumar F3.5, Yashica ML F2.8
35mm : Distagon F2.8 (soon)
50mm : Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar F2,8 // aus Jena Pancolar F1.8 // SMC Tak F1.4 // Planar F1.7
55mm : Auto-Rikenon F1.8
58mm : Helios 44-3 F2
85mm : Jupiter 9 F2
135mm : Pentacon auto 6-blade F2.8 // Super Tak F3.5 // CZJ Sonnar F3.5 Zebra |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007
Posts: 7448
Location: near High Wycombe, UK
Expire: 2014-01-04
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:43 pm Post subject: |
|
|
peterqd wrote:
| Tharos wrote: |
| peterqd : Thanks for the comparison in weight, how do these cameras compare to rangefinder cameras like RC35 in weight? |
I don't know for certain, I just weighed the cameras I have here. Web sources indicate around 420g, I assume this includes the lens.
I thought you asked about SLRs. If you're happy with a rangefinder, the Olympus XA is a lot lighter - only 225g - and it uses current batteries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympus_XA
_________________
Peter - Moderator |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tharos
Joined: 03 Nov 2009
Posts: 322
Location: Istanbul/TURKEY
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:11 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Tharos wrote:
I am also thinking rangefinders but Olympus XA is one bad looking camera to my eyes 
_________________
Camera : Yashica Electro 35 GS, Canon 450D, Konica C35 AF
28mm : Asahi Pentax SMC Takumar F3.5, Yashica ML F2.8
35mm : Distagon F2.8 (soon)
50mm : Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar F2,8 // aus Jena Pancolar F1.8 // SMC Tak F1.4 // Planar F1.7
55mm : Auto-Rikenon F1.8
58mm : Helios 44-3 F2
85mm : Jupiter 9 F2
135mm : Pentacon auto 6-blade F2.8 // Super Tak F3.5 // CZJ Sonnar F3.5 Zebra |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007
Posts: 7448
Location: near High Wycombe, UK
Expire: 2014-01-04
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
peterqd wrote:
Oh, you want it to be pretty as well??? 
_________________
Peter - Moderator |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009
Posts: 9096
Location: Houston, Texas
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
cooltouch wrote:
| Tharos wrote: |
| I am also thinking rangefinders but Olympus XA is one bad looking camera to my eyes |
The XA is actually a very practical and easy camera to use. Not to mention the fact that it takes great pics. But if one is into a more traditional looking but still reasonably priced rangefinder, then my vote is for the Canonet QL17 GIII.
_________________
Michael
My Gear List: http://michaelmcbroom.com/photo/gear.html
My Gallery: http://michaelmcbroom.com/gallery3/index.php/
My Flickr Page: https://www.flickr.com/photos/11308754@N08/albums
My Music: https://soundcloud.com/michaelmcbroom/albums
My Blog: http://michaelmcbroom.com/blogistan/ |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tharos
Joined: 03 Nov 2009
Posts: 322
Location: Istanbul/TURKEY
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Tharos wrote:
peterqd : Yeah I guess I am picky
cooltouch : Canonet QL17 GIII seems to be good suggestion. How does it compare to RC35?
_________________
Camera : Yashica Electro 35 GS, Canon 450D, Konica C35 AF
28mm : Asahi Pentax SMC Takumar F3.5, Yashica ML F2.8
35mm : Distagon F2.8 (soon)
50mm : Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar F2,8 // aus Jena Pancolar F1.8 // SMC Tak F1.4 // Planar F1.7
55mm : Auto-Rikenon F1.8
58mm : Helios 44-3 F2
85mm : Jupiter 9 F2
135mm : Pentacon auto 6-blade F2.8 // Super Tak F3.5 // CZJ Sonnar F3.5 Zebra |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
Search
Memberlist
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
