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eeyore_nl
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 837 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:30 pm Post subject: BW400CN scanning surprise |
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eeyore_nl wrote:
This afternoon I had my first roll of Kodak BW400CN developed. I was surprised at the results! It seems the default Vuescan scanner settings are not great for scanning this film. Btw, the negatives were exposed at ISO 200.
How are your experiences with BW400CN?
Some pictures from my first roll:
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eeyore_nl
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 837 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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eeyore_nl wrote:
I'll re-scan them tomorrow, because I think there's improvement to be made there as well. _________________ Fujifilm X-Pro2 / Fujifilm X-T1 / some Sonnar & Takumar lenses |
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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
i get excellent results at walgreens. good old drug store processing on fuji equipment ... _________________ Paul
I chase Light
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eeyore_nl
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 837 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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eeyore_nl wrote:
Quick and dirty test with different scanner settings ... more tomorrow
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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:33 am Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
that looks better ... _________________ Paul
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eeyore_nl
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 837 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:06 am Post subject: |
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eeyore_nl wrote:
fish4570 wrote: |
that looks better ... |
Yes, this looks better to me as well.
City renewal in Utrecht
"De Ziekenfondsbode", Amersfoort
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:00 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I love that film.
It's the only b&w film I use nowadays. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: BW400CN scanning surprise |
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Esox lucius wrote:
eeyore_nl wrote: |
It seems the default Vuescan scanner settings are not great for scanning this film. |
When I was using Nikon's scanner software for my Coolscan 4000 ED I got far better scan results than I do today, with Vuescan. Nikon doesn't support Snow Leopard hence I am using Vuescan, and I have also noticed that the software does not do a very good jobb with BW film. I have tried the profile scanner settings plus tweaked around with personal settings, but I still can't reproduce slides or negs as they appeared before.
I shoot almost exclusively Ilford BW film, but I experience the same lowered contrast, little murky and grey results. _________________ Vilhelm
Nikon DSLR: D4, D800, Nikon D3, D70
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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
what should be black isn't quite black. under expose a few frames half a stop next time you shoot sunshiny things. maybe that will add a little contrast by fooling the scanner ... _________________ Paul
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eeyore_nl
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 837 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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eeyore_nl wrote:
Actually I think it's not too bad, given that it was a heavily overcast sky yesterday.
I'm curious to how this film works in more contrast-rich situations. _________________ Fujifilm X-Pro2 / Fujifilm X-T1 / some Sonnar & Takumar lenses |
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fish4570
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
i get good results with it; i very much like this film, even though i have to because i love bw and do not process, and it is the only one available in local stores. this shot was on a gray day, inside a cafe:
_________________ Paul
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eeyore_nl
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 837 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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eeyore_nl wrote:
This was shot against the morning sun
another "depressing Utrecht" shot
and another one, and the last one for today
I hope to use this film in sunny weather soon! _________________ Fujifilm X-Pro2 / Fujifilm X-T1 / some Sonnar & Takumar lenses |
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shauttra
Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Posts: 778 Location: Latvia
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:56 am Post subject: |
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shauttra wrote:
i found this film very nice, grainless. i like it, and never seen the grain like this _________________ Mto-1000, Tair-3, Auto Exaktar 135mm 2,8, Samyang 14mm 2.8,
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Wow, great results. Where's the grain? That's about the best you can get in 35mm. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Wow, great results. Where's the grain? That's about the best you can get in 35mm. |
Young Martin, look up, look at the sky, yes there's grain there, but
certainly in forgivable amount. |
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eeyore_nl
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 837 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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eeyore_nl wrote:
Well, today I bought a box with 20 recently expired Ilford XP2 films. It's always been stored in the fridge, so it should still be good
EUR 3,- per 36exp film isn't bad, I think. I can buy 20 extra, but that needs to be discussed with the wife
Btw, I looked at quite a few pictures on Flickr and Ipernity, and they all have similar grain in the shadow areas. I think it's the nature of the film. _________________ Fujifilm X-Pro2 / Fujifilm X-T1 / some Sonnar & Takumar lenses |
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spleenone
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1130 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
I paid something around 3,40€ for one unexpired XP2 =) when I took ten of them.
I found a good shop. |
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eeyore_nl
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 837 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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eeyore_nl wrote:
spleenone wrote: |
I paid something around 3,40€ for one unexpired XP2 =) when I took ten of them.
I found a good shop. |
That's pretty good! I just bougth 20 rolls for 3 euro each (recently expired), and 10 rolls BW400CN for 2 euro each (expired in 2008).
Should give me some fun _________________ Fujifilm X-Pro2 / Fujifilm X-T1 / some Sonnar & Takumar lenses |
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spleenone
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1130 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
eeyore_nl wrote: |
spleenone wrote: |
I paid something around 3,40€ for one unexpired XP2 =) when I took ten of them.
I found a good shop. |
That's pretty good! I just bougth 20 rolls for 3 euro each (recently expired), and 10 rolls BW400CN for 2 euro each (expired in 2008).
Should give me some fun |
I think that you can't go wrong with these films. I can't get many of expired stock in my lab because of watching vultures. They buy out every cheap roll. |
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