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 Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:32 pm Post subject: Help! Sonnar 180mm f2.8 P6 - is radioactive? |
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Help! Sonnar 180mm f2.8 P6 - is radioactive? Zebra version.
The question the causes of mine has a yellow coloracióm.
I am exposing to ultraviolet light.
Greetings.
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I would be VERY surprised if a tele lens is radioactive - ususally there's no need to use glasses with high refractive index on a tele ...
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I don't want to worry you but I believe decaying cement between lens elements can also give a brownish tint. I've not heard of that being a problem with CJZ lenses, though.
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Yes.
Highly radioactive.
Get rid of it as soon as possible. Email me and I'll give you my address to be send to.
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Yes.
Highly radioactive.
Get rid of it as soon as possible. Email me and I'll give you my address to be send to.
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Yes.
Highly radioactive.
Get rid of it as soon as possible. Email me and I'll give you my address to be send to.
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Very funny, the only thing that worries me is get that yellow.
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estudleon wrote:
My CZJ 1,8/50 MC was yellowish. Well, I put it under UV light and it's clear now (a bit yellowish but much less than before the UV treatment)
Radiactive lens? I don't know and don't matter to me.
All of the CZJ 2,8/180 that remember have seen, were yellowish, some more than others but all colored.
UV done his work? Well, show us the after and before. It can be usefull for all of us.
Good luck, Rino.
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My CZJ 1,8/50 MC was yellowish. Well, I put it under UV light and it's clear now (a bit yellowish but much less than before the UV treatment)
Radiactive lens? I don't know and don't matter to me.
All of the CZJ 2,8/180 that remember have seen, were yellowish, some more than others but all colored.
UV done his work? Well, show us the after and before. It can be usefull for all of us.
Good luck, Rino. |
Thanks rhino.
Two days ago I got it under the UV lamp.
We will see in a week if they lost their yellow color.
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I had this lens and it wasn't yellow at all.
Put up a picture with the lens itself.
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I see the porttrait and it's very nice but I note:
1- The image is in the warm side. warm light or warm lens or PP ?
2- Was taken at wide open or Did you soft the image? For me the eyebrows and eyelashes are soft (or out of focus). Your CZJ is a soft lens? The eyes seem to be not in the sharpest side.
Or perhaps it's a low contrast lens
Rino.
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lwsy711 wrote:
Just one comment, the UV curving don't eliminate the radiation of the lens, it just making the lens clear.
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I had a lens with very bad haze and it caused images to look like that, but much worse.
Can we see images of the optics please.
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I had a lens with very bad haze and it caused images to look like that, but much worse.
Can we see images of the optics please. |
+1 this is typical haze output.
I have yellow Pancolar 1.4/55 doesn't makes this effect.
I had have many CZJ Sonnar at least twenty copies , none of them was yellow. I believe something happened with your glass I have no idea how it is got this stage .
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I see the porttrait and it's very nice but I note:
1- The image is in the warm side. warm light or warm lens or PP ?
2- Was taken at wide open or Did you soft the image? For me the eyebrows and eyelashes are soft (or out of focus). Your CZJ is a soft lens? The eyes seem to be not in the sharpest side.
Or perhaps it's a low contrast lens
Rino. |
If it is a low contrast lens. The flash light is apart you can see a yellow coloring in one of his glasses
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I had a lens with very bad haze and it caused images to look like that, but much worse.
Can we see images of the optics please. |
This lens has done a service a few months ago. just buy it.
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Perhaps one of lens was replaced from another one , not all genuine CZJ don't know.
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Orio wrote:
The main problem with the image is lack of contrast.
Colour tint of lens can be reduced with sunlight exposition, whatever it's origin - sun will bleach it any way.
With zebra lenses, which are mono coated, a hood is imperative, especially with lenses with as huge front glass surface as the Sonnar 180.
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Always, always with hood.
Two days before exposing it to ultraviolet light is yellow.
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Better watch out, prolonged exposure to UV can cause cancer. Suggest you use Ipana Toothpaste (I think that's the one), you'll wonder where the yellow went.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:35 am Post subject: Re: Help! Sonnar 180mm f2.8 P6 - is radioactive |
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francotirador wrote:
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| Better watch out, prolonged exposure to UV can cause cancer. Suggest you use Ipana Toothpaste (I think that's the one), you'll wonder where the yellow went. |
First, I seek not any man.
Second, you crazy? Or you drank too much the 31?
Very funny, luck with the search ...
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