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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:58 pm    Post subject: New User new Question about rollei 35 lenses Reply with quote

I'm a digital photographer who want to buy a analog film camera, I have found this offer ,and i whould to know your opinions:
rollei sl35 (germany)
Planar 50 f1.8
distagon 35 f2.8
tele tessar 135 f4
ultron 50 f1.8
rolleinar 135 f 2.8

PS: is there a ring convertitor for my digital d700?


PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:27 pm    Post subject: Re: New User new Question about rollei 35 lenses Reply with quote

vetrofragile wrote:
I'm a digital photographer who want to buy a analog film camera, I have found this offer ,and i whould to know your opinions:
rollei sl35 (germany)
Planar 50 f1.8
distagon 35 f2.8
tele tessar 135 f4
ultron 50 f1.8
rolleinar 135 f 2.8

PS: is there a ring convertitor for my digital d700?


d700... do you mean nikon d700 ?
if you mean nikon d700, the answer is no !
you probably must modify the mount of the lens but i am not sure if this thing can be done !
-rollei sl35 ... yes is the only good working ff made by rollei ... but ugly viewfinder... i have 1 sl35me and 2 sl35e and all these are defect !!!!!!
-planar 50 1.8 is very good but the carl zeiss ultron 1.8/50 is better (m42 version is more easily usable)...there is another variant of planar 50 1.8 hft that is called color-ultron...same lens
-stay away from rolleinar 135/2.8 ... i prefer my yashica ml 2.8/135 without red "c" !!!!!
-ultron 50 f1.8 ... do you mean carl zeiss ultron 1.8/50 with the concave front element ?
if the answer is yes is a very good lens !!


PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All what Metallaro says is good advice, except that I find the Rollei Planar 1.8/50 to be an excellent lens.

Not many people know it, but the Rollei Planar 1.8/50 was designed by Erhard Glatzel, which is probably the third most important lens designer of all times after Cooke and Rudolph. Glatzel was the "father" of many lenses that made the history of optics, such as the "Hollywood" Distagon 2/28, the Distagon 1.4/35, and the Distagon 2.8/21.

P.S. Metallaro, where do you live? We must be close, why don't we meet sometime?


PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mi state dicendo che il mirino è una ciofeca? Very Happy

ps:abito a cesena Smile


PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vetrofragile wrote:
mi state dicendo che il mirino è una ciofeca? Very Happy


Vetrofragile (where does the nickname come from? Laughing ), on the forum, only English please.

I have no idea about the viewfinder because I never handled a Rollei SL.

vetrofragile wrote:
ps:abito a cesena Smile


Nice to know that you are in Cesena, if my count is correct we should now be 3 emilians and 2 "romagnoli" in the group
(how the Helga can we translate romagnoli into English, Laughing )


PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vetrofragile wrote:
mi state dicendo che il mirino è una ciofeca? Very Happy

ps:abito a cesena Smile


il mirino non è molto luminoso e mi pare non abbia i microprismi al centro ...
mi pare che me l'abbia detto uno su canoniani....
l'unico viewfinder delle rolleiflex sl35 che ho trovato decente è quello della sl35e ma ste macchine, hanno troppi difetti ....
elettronica1: si guasta l'autoscatto
elettronica2: si scollano i tiranti dell'otturatore e le lamelle poi, tendono ad andare storte o creano dei rimbalzi e nelle fotografie, si vedono delle bande scure o chiare (a seconda se diapo o rullino)
oltre alla sl35 (io con la sl35me ed un grandangolo ho fatto fatica a mettere a fuoco) esiste anche la sl35m ma non la sl35me (si guasta spesso anche lei) !
la sl35m, forse è + resistente che la sl35e e sl35me
in primis è meglio la sl35 ! ma il viewfinder fà schifo !
nella sl35e poi, mi sono dimenticato di dirti una cosa:
se la si usa spesso, la reflex ha bisogno di un goccio d'olio dalla parte sotto, in una fessura... lì c'è un robo che agisce sul rilascio del pulsante di scatto e, se questo è sporco, fà rilasciare il shutter realease button con un certo ritardo ed appunto quando è sporco si sente un rumore non tanto piacevole !
la sl35m è meccanica (forse ha il viewfinder leggermente migliore della sl35) ... come durabilità appunto le migliori sono la sl35 e la sl35m ....
hai mai provato a scattare con una contax quartz 139.... quello è un fiewfinder piacevole !


PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio wrote:
All what Metallaro says is good advice, except that I find the Rollei Planar 1.8/50 to be an excellent lens.

Not many people know it, but the Rollei Planar 1.8/50 was designed by Erhard Glatzel, which is probably the third most important lens designer of all times after Cooke and Rudolph. Glatzel was the "father" of many lenses that made the history of optics, such as the "Hollywood" Distagon 2/28, the Distagon 1.4/35, and the Distagon 2.8/21.

P.S. Metallaro, where do you live? We must be close, why don't we meet sometime?


abito a fidenza ... vicino a salsomaggiore ...
ps .... ho visto una tua foto che hai fatto con il distagon 28mm alla stazione di salsomaggiore ..... uhm mi fai gola !


PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

la prima versione del ultron era per macchine a telemetro e penso che era un 2/50mm per prominent (per molti è scomoda da usare)
la seconda versione è appunto il carl zeiss ultron 1.8/50mm quello con la lente concava. è stato realizzato da un dottore della voigtlander
era per le seguenti reflex: Zeiss-Icon/ Voigtlander Icarex (BM and TM)
state lontani anche da ste reflex... ne ho una a baionetta guasta pure lei...spesso si rompe l'automatismo dei diaframmi in ste ottiche.... ho il prisma della icarex con la pittura scollata...
la terza versione comprende il color-ultron 1.8/50 che poi sostanzialmente è uguale al rollei hft 1.8/50mm
per hft si intende hight fidelity transfer !


PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Metallaro:

1) Please use English only on the forum. 99% of users would not understand Italian

2) I live in Salso! So we live 9 kms from each other. Isn't it a small world after all ?? Laughing

We must definitely meet one of these days and go out to photograph together!


PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the color ultron 1.8/50mm or rollei hft 1.8/50mm is a good lens...
here my landscape (i have used this lens)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/33530174@N05/4051675902/


PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

metallaro1980.

Parece muy interesante tu exposición, lástima que no te entiendo nada. Quizás vos tampoco. No?

Regards.

Rino.


PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the viewfinder of rollei sl35 is ugly, dark and with wide angle lens, is difficult to do the focusing because there aren't any form of split image spot prism.
also with sl35me it is difficult to do the focusing (the split image spot prism is present)
i love only the viewfinder of rollei sl35e, it is more bright than other !
but stay away from these film cameras !
often this film cameras (sl35e) will defect using it !
the self timer can defect
i have 2 rollei sl35e with shutter problems.
the shutter blades of this cameras (sl35e) can lose the synchronism !
the blades of shutter can have some bounces .... they can move retorts !
so the pictures can have dark/clear strips (positive/negative film) ... often in the bottom of frame !

the first version of the ultron is for rangefinder cameras (prominent) and its focal length is 2/50mm (for many people prominent is not easy to use)

the second version is exactly a carl zeiss ultron 1.8/50mm with the cocave front element. it has been realized from a doctor of the voigtlander 's team.
it was used with this film cameras: Zeiss-Icon/Voigtlander Icarex (BM and TM)
stay away from these film cameras !
I have one icarex that is defect now !
often this film cameras can defect !
the automatism of the diaphragms can defect
I have the prism of my icarex with the unglued painting…

the third version comprises: color-ultron 1,8/50 and the rollei hft 1.8/50mm (they are equal)
hft = high fidelity transfer !


PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh!!
Thank you metallaro1980, very much.

Very interesant.

I had only one SL35E and was defective in the automatism. I agree, very clear finder (and the SL 35 very dark).

Regards, Rino.


PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have two rools on SL35ME and without any focusing probelm. VF is clear. HFT Planar 50/1.8 is good.




PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The night shot is superb, Mike. Exposure and framing spot on.

Cheers, Marty.


PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

with sl35me and color-skoparex ar 2.8/28mm (this economical lens was made by mamiya before the bankrupt of rollei) i have had some problems with focusing


PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marty wrote:
The night shot is superb, Mike. Exposure and framing spot on.


+1. Like the shot a lot. What film did you use? More than 1 minute exposure?


PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fujifilm Superia ISO100, about 25sec.
I have Canon 400D + CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 MC shoot at same time, attached below. I love the film one which has more detail.