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trifox
Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 3614 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:12 pm Post subject: Bokeh test - on Koji's request - Canon FD 85 f1.2 |
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trifox wrote:
KOJI was wondering how the bokeh on FD 85 f1.2 behaves ..
I have done some examples
The weather was horrible again
set 1 ----------------------
1a = f1.2
1b = f2
1c = f4
1d = f5.6
set 2 ----------------------
2a = f1.2
2b = f2
2c = f4
set 3 ----------------------
3a = f1.2
3b = f2
3c = f4
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16662 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Creamy yet very sharp + contrasty!
Great lens obviously...! _________________ Klaus - Admin
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NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
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COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
+1
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2107 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Wow, very smooth &/ creamy. This lens does not seem to have any
weakness even at bokeh department, and cheaper than C/Y 85/1.2.
Thank you Trifox very much for this. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
+2
smooth & creamy, congrats |
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soikka
Joined: 11 Jun 2008 Posts: 534 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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soikka wrote:
+3
Yeah... Where did you convert this lens again? Samples are really great... _________________ DSLR: K-5,K20d+Grip, Ist*Ds
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NikonD
Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 1922 Location: Slovenija
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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NikonD wrote:
+4
simply stunning! |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Trifox, a question:
How easy (or difficult) will it be to undo the conversion to your 85/1.2?
I ask because I own the SSC Aspherical flavor, and even though I swore to myself I would never convert this lens, I might could be tempted if it was reversible without too much difficulty. _________________ Michael
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trifox
Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 3614 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
hi Cooltouch .
Some points to this conversion - it's difficult - but -- you propably know those endless posts on different forums on web.
This process is IRREVERSIBLE -- If you're NOT 100 per cent sure -- don't cut it.
Your SSC version has ASPHERICAL element (FD 85 f1.2 L has 'only' aspherical SURFACE
which puts your lens ON THE TOP of this trio:
1 - FD 85 f1.2 - SSC - ASPHERICAL - the best optical performance -- more than aperture 8 blades (I don't know exactly how many
2 - FD 85 f1.2 L - 8 aperture blades
3 - EF 85 f1.2 L - autofocus.. -- I don't know the amount of blades
once you've done it -- you can not take it back - but when you see the results on good camera then you'll say: YES!
That's what I need. That's what I want. AND MORE THING
You can still USE this lens (without some features, of course) on EOS film camera.
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trifox
Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 3614 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
a few more samples ...
4 = f1.2
5a = f1.2
5b = f2
5c = f4
6 = f1.2
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
An absolutely terrific lens, and your samples showcase it very well. You should get hired by Canon to promote their lenses! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2107 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
This second set of photos tells me England is already in Spring?
The rest of us excluding S. American guys are going into the deep winter from now on. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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Orio
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
koji wrote: |
excluding S. American guys |
And downunder fellows as well _________________ Orio, Administrator
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mo
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
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And downunder fellows as well |
Yes 30+ or a little over 40 depending where you are ....where I am it's going from Green to brown.
Thank you for the photo's I can see clearly the F stop difference in effect. _________________ Moira, Moderator
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
***An absolutely terrific lens***
Well yes, but there must be a lens out there that comes near for a fraction of the cost. Giant killer lens comparisons are very interesting for those who don't have deep pockets. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
trifox wrote: |
hi Cooltouch .
Some points to this conversion - it's difficult - but -- you propably know those endless posts on different forums on web.
This process is IRREVERSIBLE -- If you're NOT 100 per cent sure -- don't cut it.
Your SSC version has ASPHERICAL element (FD 85 f1.2 L has 'only' aspherical SURFACE
which puts your lens ON THE TOP of this trio:
1 - FD 85 f1.2 - SSC - ASPHERICAL - the best optical performance -- more than aperture 8 blades (I don't know exactly how many
2 - FD 85 f1.2 L - 8 aperture blades
3 - EF 85 f1.2 L - autofocus.. -- I don't know the amount of blades
once you've done it -- you can not take it back - but when you see the results on good camera then you'll say: YES!
That's what I need. That's what I want. AND MORE THING
You can still USE this lens (without some features, of course) on EOS film camera.
tf |
Thanks for the feedback. The 85/1.2 Asph has 9 aperture blades. I think the EF version has 8, but I'm not sure about this.
Well, I just can't bring myself to doing a permanent conversion on this lens. I still use it frequently on my old Canon F-1. Besides, that new Samyang 85/1.4 sure looks interesting, so I think I should just save my funds and get one of those instead.
It would be interesting to see a head-to-head comparsion between the Samyang and a lens like yours. I'm thinking the "L" will probably have the edge when it comes to color correction. _________________ Michael
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2107 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Orio wrote: |
koji wrote: |
excluding S. American guys |
And downunder fellows as well |
I wanted to spell "S. Hemisphere". Oh well too late now. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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