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RTOGOG
Joined: 24 Apr 2009 Posts: 21
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:21 am Post subject: Best Telleconverter M42? |
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RTOGOG wrote:
Hello,
I just want to play w my old fixed lens from my late father and need advice the best m42 TC 2x or 3x. Is there any 1.4x TC w m42 mount.
I asked because I can not find reference of this TC on that era on net.
Many thanks,
RTOGOG |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:30 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
If Vivitar made their macro-focusing 7-element 2x for M42, get one. I dunno if they ever did, though, but I wouldn't be surprised. If Kiron made a 7-element 2x for M42, this would be second on my list. Other brands that made good TCs that I know of are/were Kenko and Komura. I'd definitely go with a 7-element, regardless, and hopefully multicoated.
Also, in case I overlook the obvious, if Pentax made one, then definitely get one of those.
I just took a quick look on eBay. There are all sorts of 2x and 3x TCs, but most of the 2x ones look like 4-element types. I noticed several Russian made ones, and I wouldn't be surprised if they work very well. At least they look like 7-element converters. _________________ Michael
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RTOGOG
Joined: 24 Apr 2009 Posts: 21
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:29 am Post subject: |
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RTOGOG wrote:
If Vivitar made their macro-focusing 7-element 2x for M42, get one.
Does it the same lens that come out w other brand name?. I got it from my late father collection. It looks the same shape but it branded as Soligor. I like very much this macro teleconverter, interm of optic & its built quality. |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:58 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
The only macro-focusing TC I've ever seen has been the Vivitar. It has a focusing ring like a lens. Perhaps the same unit was sold as other brands -- I just don't know. _________________ Michael
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Andreas
Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 157 Location: Extreme north of Provence, south of France
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Andreas wrote:
Kenko made a 2X Macro converter too. But I don't know if it exists with M42 mount.
Andreas |
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CarbonR
Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 1969 Location: Clermont-Ferrand, France
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:17 am Post subject: |
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CarbonR wrote:
I saw the X2 macro converters under some brands, but never was in M42 mount, only a Panagor that doesn't allow focusing at infinity (can focus between 1:10 and 1:1 with a 50mm lens). Pentax didnt make an M42 teleconverter, I'll also suggest the well reputated Komura Telemore 95II (7 elements). X1,5 converters exist, I have one, but they seem to be rare in M42 mount. _________________ Cameras : Canon 5D, Pentax K100D, Pentax 6x7, Spotmatic
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Short tele : Takumar 83/1.9 83mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85/1.9 85mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85mm, Takumar 100/2 100mm, Takumar 100/3.5 100mm, Takumar 100/4 100mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V1 105mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V2 105mm, Takumar 120/2.8 120mm
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Anu
Joined: 14 Apr 2009 Posts: 879
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:53 am Post subject: Re: Best Telleconverter M42? |
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Anu wrote:
RTOGOG wrote: |
Hello,
I just want to play w my old fixed lens from my late father and need advice the best m42 TC 2x or 3x. Is there any 1.4x TC w m42 mount.
I asked because I can not find reference of this TC on that era on net.
Many thanks,
RTOGOG |
Vivitar has a 1.5x teleconverter - 3 elements and it's not that good.
Of the cheap 4-element 2x teleconverters you might want to try the East-German or Soviet ones. My East-German one (Weixdowrf) is excellent at close distances resolutionwise, even wide open (contrast drops though), but quite bad at infinity. My Soviet one (K-1) is on the other hand a solid performer at longer distances (as well as shorter ones), but the lens should be stopped down a bit.
What you must remember is that you also need a solid (prime) lens to attach the teleconverter into. |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
I saw, somehere in the Mancha, the russian KOHBEPTEP K-1 -2x .
Like russian lens, can be good. Anybody knows?
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Anu
Joined: 14 Apr 2009 Posts: 879
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Anu wrote:
estudleon wrote: |
I saw, somehere in the Mancha, the russian KOHBEPTEP K-1 -2x .
Like russian lens, can be good. Anybody knows?
Rino. |
I have it and it is quite good. |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Anu wrote: |
estudleon wrote: |
I saw, somehere in the Mancha, the russian KOHBEPTEP K-1 -2x .
Like russian lens, can be good. Anybody knows?
Rino. |
I have it and it is quite good. |
Thanks Anu.
Rino _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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