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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:51 am Post subject: Pratica IV FB anyone used one?? |
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mo wrote:
This camera came with the CZJ Pancolor,I have looked at it's manual and read a bit about it.but a few of the dials I can not get my head around.
And this maybe the only issue....."ALTHOUGH THEY STILL WORK THEY ARE IN NEED OF A SERVICE, AS THEY ARE NO LONGER ACCURATE".Talking about the shutter speeds.
Another thing I notice is the mirror stays up when the button is pressed and is lowered when the winder is wound on.Is that normal? _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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themoleman342
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2190 Location: East Coast (CT), U.S.A.
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:42 am Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
Yes, it is normal. This camera does not have an instant return mirror.
http://www.praktica-collector.de/146_Praktica_IV_FB.htm
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:45 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I had not found that site,so thank you for the link.I have gotten a quote to get the camera serviced + new shutter $300 + so it may just sit there for awhile,although I do like to get cameras I buy fully functional...otherwise whats the point in having a broken camera sitting around?? _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Seele
Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 742 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Seele wrote:
A lot of people got stumped by the earlier two-range type Praktica shutter; mis-match of the two dials would give pretty funky speeds.
Just for the record:
The main shutter speed dial is a "lift, turn and drop" type, the rim has a dot which you line up with the speed numbers. These numbers are marked in black and red, black for the fast range, and red for the slow range. On top of the main dial is a smaller, two-position dial, where it can be set against a black or a red mark on the top plate: when it is set to black, only the black speed numbers are effective, and likewise for the red.
There is, however, a common setting on the main dial, which is a dot between "25" and "2"; this same setting delivers 1/25 if the top dial is set to black, and 1/2 if set to red.
In a sense it is actually quite neat: the black speeds are hand-holdable speeds, but the red ones would need additional support. The only discrepancy is that "B" is on the black range.
Hope this is of some use. |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Thanks Seele
That makes more sense now with the black and red,So would you say the ideal speed to leave it on would be 100 black just for everyday shots?Or a little trial and error is needed to find out?
What do the blue, red and black numbers mean on the base of the re-winder dial mean?
Blue = from 60 to 1(the last three numbers are faded I think they are 4,2,1)
Red=again the first two are faded so I guess ?,5,10
black=25,50,100,200,500
I know how to set the ASA speed but the numbers confuse me on the outer dial. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Seele
Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 742 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Seele wrote:
Mo-Fo,
It depends on the film speed you are using, and the focal length of the lens you use it with; but for my money, 1/100s would be a safe slowest shutter speed to aim for.
Being a "B" model, it has a built-in selenium exposure meter, and the ring around the rewind knob is for controlling it. After you set the film speed, the outer ring should turn, this moves a second pointer (with a circle at the end) along the length of the arc-shape window on the top plate. Depending on the intensity of light falling on the selenium cell, a slender galvanometer needle can be seen at different position in the window as well, so what you need to do is to turn the dial until both needles are in the same position, hence "match-needle".
The numbers on the turning outer rim and the stationary inner ring are shutter speed and aperture numbers. As the dial is turned, you get different relative positions, and each pairing of shutter speed and aperture setting would give you identical exposure. |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Yes that makes sense,the needle moves in "inside" light and bright light.I will have to get it fixed to see it work properly.or run a film through and be surprised! I have a lot of kodak gold 400 so that is my test film. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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