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Distagon 1.4/35 and lens flare
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:40 pm    Post subject: Distagon 1.4/35 and lens flare Reply with quote
Distagon 1.4/35 and lens flare: two parallel lines running to infinity Wink



PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
wow !!!!!!!! I like it !!!!!


PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Now you will understand when I say this lens is amazing. Smile

Firstly, I think any other lens in the world would have flared somehow with this kind of strong lights directly in the frame. The Distagon 1.4/35 does not show any, ZERO flare. Note there is also no lens hood - there were lateral lights too that are not in the frame but the lens does not catch parasite light either even with zero hood.
I know this quality of the lens since some time now, as I own it for more than two years now, yet, every time that I make a picture like this, I am amazed at the result as if it was the first time! Shocked

Secondly, I don't know the technical reason why, but this lens gives a "presence" to the subjects that no other lens that I own, with the possible exception of the Hollywood Distagon, can. It's like the people are alive there on the photograph. I don't know how to describe this better. This and the above are the reasons why I always say that I would be a happy photographer even if I had just this one lens. Smile

Thanks, many thanks Erhard Glatzel for creating this marvel (and thanks Zeiss for producing it at this so high quality level and relatively affordable price).


PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
That's the reason of the new topic in the manual lenses thread.

Hey, don't mark your best Contax lens, it is useless. Very Happy

I wonder, the new 35/2.0 give the same results?


PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I just saw the thread Smile
In fact, this one thread also would have belonged better to the lens forum, than to a gallery, but the size limitation on pictures forced me to post it here in the Oversize gallery
(I feel that a large image size is necessary to evaluate a lens appropriately)


PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
A wonderful lens indeed Orio! I liked that shot when you had posted that one earlier ("Palio") and was simply amazed about the flare proof and the "live recording" capabilities of that lens (not to speak about contrast + color + sharpness). A real gem indeed!

I had the ZM 2/35mm for my rangefinder and it was also quite a marvelous lens, so I would assume that the 2/35mm is based on the same design and as a ZE/ZF/ZK version will also perform very well....


PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
That's a beautiful shot with some beautiful people.


PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio, what would be a realistic price for the AEG and MMG version currently (used) for the 1.4/35mm?


PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Stunning photo, I really really like it a lot Very Happy


PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
great atmosphere shot (even if high iso is perceptible on skin) and beautiful girl
Orio wrote:
Note there is also no lens hood

wow! you are also in the no hood club Shocked


PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
kds315* wrote:
A wonderful lens indeed Orio! I liked that shot when you had posted that one earlier ("Palio") and was simply amazed about the flare proof and the "live recording" capabilities of that lens (not to speak about contrast + color + sharpness). A real gem indeed!


Yes, for me is really a dream lens. I would not trade it for anything Smile

kds315* wrote:
I had the ZM 2/35mm for my rangefinder and it was also quite a marvelous lens, so I would assume that the 2/35mm is based on the same design and as a ZE/ZF/ZK version will also perform very well....


Actually, the 2/35 for the ZM series is a Biogon (non retrofocus), so I don't think the 2/35 ZF has anything to do with it. There was a Contarex Distagon 2/35, which is the elder of the Contax 1.4/35. But looking at the schematics the new ZF seems different from that lens too.
Your friend Marco Cavina will surely be able to give you a more precise insight about this.

This is the link to Marco Cavina's article about the 1.4/35:
http://www.luciolepri.it/lc2/marcocavina/articoli_fotografici/Glatzel-1,4-35/00_pag.htm

From that same article, here is the scheme of the Contarex 2/35 (year 1965):



What follows is the scheme of the Contax 1.4/35 (from Zeiss's pdf):


And here is the scheme of ZF Distagon 2/35 (from Zeiss's pdf):


And here's the ZM Biogon 2/35 (rangefinder):


As you can see, the Biogon looks like a different type of lens, but the new Distagon ZF looks different from the Glatzel model also. While instead, the derivation of the Contax f/1.4 model from the Contarex f/2 model is evident even at a glance.

So I don't really know what to say, except that for sure the Biogon is a different beast. Perhaps you could ask Marco Cavina his opinion and report it here. It would be greatly interesting for us all to know what he thinks!

I am of the impression, seeing the schemes, that the new ZF Distagon 2/35 is really a different lens than the Contax 1.4 and I doubt it would render the same (although this of course does not mean necessarily that it will be worse!).


PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks for all the nice comments!

poilu wrote:
great atmosphere shot (even if high iso is perceptible on skin) and beautiful girl


yes... well of course the new cameras are great but they can't make miracles Wink
But there is also to be said that in this shot I forgot to denoise.
Denoise is off in my camera, so you are really looking at the file with no noise reduction.
Which is quite good performance I think!

poilu wrote:
Orio wrote:
Note there is also no lens hood

wow! you are also in the no hood club Shocked


Well, not really, but with the 1.4/35 I always forgot to take the hood with me, because it just does not need it Shocked It is really a spoiling lens, that makes you take bad habits! Laughing
(besides, I even bought a specific 1.4/35 Distagon Contax rubber hood at the last fair... I keep forgetting it home... Rolling Eyes Laughing )


PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
"Mea Culpa" Orio - guess I had a "senior moment". Of couirse the design is a Biogon thus very different. Thanks for posting all the lens drawings, very helpful. And yes, I will cetrainly discuss that issue with Marco!


PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
kds315* wrote:
"Mea Culpa" Orio - guess I had a "senior moment". Of couirse the design is a Biogon thus very different. Thanks for posting all the lens drawings, very helpful. And yes, I will cetrainly discuss that issue with Marco!


Don't forget to discuss about it, don't forget to discuss about it........don't forget to discuss about it and tell us his opinion.

Repetition is a kind of madness, mflenses madness/fever..... Laughing

Hey I don't remember. Told you, don't forget to discuss about it......didn't I? Cool


PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Distagpn 2/35 ZF has a strong flare resistance thus



PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
These pictures are amazing - daunting really for those of us who cannot aspire to the Distagon/Biogon world


patrickh
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