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haley
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 Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:32 am Post subject: Helios 40-2...can I make it sharper? |
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haley wrote:
I just picked up a Helios 40-2, but I can't seem to get it very sharp. I'm wondering if I'm just too used to sharper lenses or if there is a problem. I know I can send my AF lenses off for calibration with my camera to make them tack sharp, but does anyone have an idea on a way to make this lens sharper? Am I out of my mind? |
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sichko
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sichko wrote:
If you are using it wide open the Depth-of-Field will be quite thin and you might find focusing difficult. Have you tried stopping-down - to f/8 for example ? Focusing should be easier and you should be able to obtain a very sharp image.
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aoleg
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aoleg wrote:
Wide open, Helios-40-2 is only sharp in the centre, very fuzzy towards the edges, and becoming a bit sharper at extreme edges. Go figure, but that's how the design works. By f/2.8, it's quite sharp everywhere.
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Bruce
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Bruce wrote:
I dont think one would buy this lens for sharpness, but rather for its unique bokeh, which makes it the Portrait lens its famous for.
It is possible you have a bad copy, esp if its been disassembled and incorrectly reassembled. I hear this not uncommon with the 40-2.
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poilu
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:52 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
welcome haley
this lens is sharp everywhere after F5.6 check this review
have you try it with 450D and liveview to get best focus |
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Orio
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Have you stopped aperture down to f/8 ?
It is one of my sharpest lenses!
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estudleon
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I can buy one 40-2 at USD 145.
Is it a good price? Is a comfortable lens to use? (not so heavy?)
I like it, but. . .
Rino.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
| estudleon wrote: |
I can buy one 40-2 at USD 145.
Is it a good price? Is a comfortable lens to use? (not so heavy?)
I like it, but. . .
Rino. |
On Ebay easily reach 400-500 USD... , heavy, big lens, but still no problem with practical usage.
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Attila
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Helios 40-2...can I make it sharper? |
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| haley wrote: |
| I just picked up a Helios 40-2, but I can't seem to get it very sharp. I'm wondering if I'm just too used to sharper lenses or if there is a problem. I know I can send my AF lenses off for calibration with my camera to make them tack sharp, but does anyone have an idea on a way to make this lens sharper? Am I out of my mind? |
Can you show us some 100% crop taken with this lens from central part of image. It must be acceptable sharpness even at wide open.
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no-X
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:59 am Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
| estudleon wrote: |
I can buy one 40-2 at USD 145.
Is it a good price? Is a comfortable lens to use? (not so heavy?)
I like it, but. . .
Rino. |
That's bargain. Take it anyway - if you won't like it, you can sell it easilly 
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estudleon
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Attila and No-x Thanks, very much.
It's too late. I went to the site and was sold.
GRRRRRR!!
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CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Damn it, one time I went to the shop and seller sold a Leica Nokton 1.0 10-20X less than Market value only 20 minutes before when I did arrive.
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