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poilu
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 Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: rokkor PG 58:1.2 wide open |
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poilu wrote:
today I tried the rokkor wide open to see if it is usable
100% crop
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soikka
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soikka wrote:
Very usable indeed! Nice dreamy look...
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Orio wrote:
It surely is, and picture #4 also shows a quite decent "3D" look !
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
rokkor 1.2/58 ?? one of the most desired lenses
poilu - congrats ! - this lens performs AMAZINGLY -
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poilu
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poilu wrote:
thanks for nice comments!
I had to put a hood on this one. It is MC but flare resistance is not T*.
I have only one hood, it is for wide but it was ok
With a 58mm you have to use your foots so I selected a target and follow it
all wide open and cropped, last 8 was at 1/8000s and overexposed
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LucisPictor wrote:
More than just usable! These are excellent results!!!
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Carlsson
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Carlsson wrote:
Yes! Great set!
It looks like a nice lens, able to transport the atmosphere.
Thanks for sharing Poilu.
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koji wrote:
Yes, it is eminently possible. (Spock said)
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Katastrofo wrote:
Fantastic pics, Poilu! The lens certainly lives up to its reputation!
(Not bad shooting, either, Poilu. Let's not forget that.   ) |
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jimlizard wrote:
This week I'll receive the Rokkor-X 50mm f/1.2 MD, which is said to be even sharper, altough with a worst bokeh.
Watching these pictures makes me want it even more.
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poilu
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poilu wrote:
thanks Carsten, Carlsson, Koji & Bill
using a fast normal lens for such events allow to get blurred background while keeping normal perspective and air between subjects
a longer lens compress everything, all actors seems glued together and spectators have the same size as participant giving unnatural results
I had also the 80-200 with me and I would used it if I had to stay farther
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| This week I'll receive the Rokkor-X 50mm f/1.2 MD |
congrats!
I read that the 50:1.2 is more difficult to convert, how will you adapt it to the 5DII ?
I didn't wait much from the 58:1.2, results surprised me and I will use it more now that I find that a hood make it much better |
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jimlizard
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I read that the 50:1.2 is more difficult to convert, how will you adapt it to the 5DII ?
I didn't wait much from the 58:1.2, results surprised me and I will use it more now that I find that a hood make it much better |
I found the same information! The 50mm seems to be hard to find and even harder to convert. I'm lucky because I bought one already converted to EOS bayonet.
It's good to know you were surprised by the result. These Rokkors seems to be amongst the best 50mm lenses ever made.
I already test a lot of them but my usual 50mm used to be the Planar T* 50mm f/1.4.
Supposing you already tried one, how do find the Rokkor compared to it using large apertures?
Thanks.
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my_photography wrote:
Great stuffs. Like the bokeh.
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poilu
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poilu wrote:
thanks my_photography
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| how do find the Rokkor compared to it using large apertures? |
it is not fair to compare a old Minolta with a newer Zeiss with T*
the Zeiss is much sharper wide open
sharpness is not so important wide open but focusing is more easy with the contax
I get the same speed/aperture at 1.4 than with the 1.2 (my rokkor is still yellow and need more sun)
T* is of course much superior
Rokkor have more CA but nothing alarming
Zeiss can have bloom in extreme lightning, Rokkor none
Rokkor give certainly more blur, combination of wider aperture and longer focal
the 2 lens are top performer; I don't have used the Rokkor enough to decide by how much the Zeiss is better |
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jimlizard
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jimlizard wrote:
Thank you!
That was very useful.
As soon as I can test my Rokkor i'll share my thoughts in here.
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