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Krisgage
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 681 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 8:20 am Post subject: Need information about this brass lens |
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Krisgage wrote:
Hello everyone
I found another old brass lens from the antique shop.
The inscription says
Boppel-Anastigmat “Eurynar”
G. Rodenstock Muncher
No. 11361
1:6,8 f=24cm
I need more information about this lens as I could not find anything on www
Thanks
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Orio
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Must be "Rodenstock MüncheN"
Looks like it has no shutter - perhaps a projection lens? _________________ Orio, Administrator
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 11:42 am Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
I think it's for (~100 years) old large format box camera (for slides of glass plates). I don't know, how are these cameras called in English, but they used these lenses. Lens cap or hat was used instead of shutter
Projection lenses are usually faster and lacks iris.
//edit: something like this:
I found, that Eurynars were manufactured around 1910, and they were used for large format cameras: 13x18cm up-to 35x43cm (14x17in). _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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Krisgage
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 681 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Krisgage wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Must be "Rodenstock MüncheN"
Looks like it has no shutter - perhaps a projection lens? |
It is Rodenstock München and it has aperature blades. _________________ Photos and Lenses Journal
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Krisgage
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 681 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Krisgage wrote:
no-X wrote: |
I think it's for (~100 years) old large format box camera (for slides of glass plates). I don't know, how are these cameras called in English, but they used these lenses. Lens cap or hat was used instead of shutter
Projection lenses are usually faster and lacks iris.
//edit: something like this:
I found, that Eurynars were manufactured around 1910, and they were used for large format cameras: 13x18cm up-to 35x43cm (14x17in). |
Thanks no !
It got aperature blade that almost closing up to form a perfect round iris. _________________ Photos and Lenses Journal
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Gurdie
Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 997 Location: Finland
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Gurdie wrote:
I think the right name is Doppel Anastigmat, meaning Double Anastigmat
Please check
http://www.cameraeccentric.com/html/info/rodenstock_2.html (page 18 is about Eurynars).
There´s something about Rodenstock Eurynars also at www.largeformatphotography.info. _________________ Markku
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Krisgage
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 681 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Krisgage wrote:
Thank you. Some of the words had faded away, so I try to make up the words. Thanks for clarifying. _________________ Photos and Lenses Journal
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
I had one like this but smaller, 18cm
http://forum.mflenses.com/rodenstock-eurynar-18cm-f-6-8-on-bellows-t11205,highlight,rodenstock+doppel.html
A very nice, sharp lens. Worth trying out on the DSLR.
The Eurynars were made for several decades, but yours is a very early one I think, before 1910, because of the very low serial number.
These were supplied in barrel (no shutter) like this for use in cameras with focal-plane shutters or shutters that were not iris-type, like Packard shutters.
If you are into large format, that one should cover 8x10, barely. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Krisgage
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 681 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Krisgage wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
I had one like this but smaller, 18cm
http://forum.mflenses.com/rodenstock-eurynar-18cm-f-6-8-on-bellows-t11205,highlight,rodenstock+doppel.html
A very nice, sharp lens. Worth trying out on the DSLR.
The Eurynars were made for several decades, but yours is a very early one I think, before 1910, because of the very low serial number.
These were supplied in barrel (no shutter) like this for use in cameras with focal-plane shutters or shutters that were not iris-type, like Packard shutters.
If you are into large format, that one should cover 8x10, barely. |
I saw your thread in the mid of searching for this lens. Your photos are great and nice. I wonder how you fit it into a bellow and what kind of bellow. I had similar intention to use a bellow but mine is OM Auto bellow, will it work ? Thank you ! _________________ Photos and Lenses Journal
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Hi Kris,
These are some of my mountings -
http://forum.mflenses.com/wollensak-enlarger-105-4-5-on-bellows-t6369,highlight,wollensak+enlarger.html
http://forum.mflenses.com/bauschandlomb-tessar-164-4-5-enlarger-lens-on-bellows-t11018,highlight,bausch+lomb.html
http://forum.mflenses.com/wollensak-enlarging-raptar-162-4-5-on-bellows-t7250,highlight,wollensak+enlarger.html
OM-bellows should be just as good as any. I assume there is a OM female mount on the lens end of the bellows.
My usual starting point is a body-cap, a T-mount or a reverse-adapter. You can get these for OM. They should go on the lens end of the bellows.
The body cap is only good for very small lenses. I use plastic ones. Drill a hole just big enough to screw the lens into, it becomes a very small lens board. If you have the ring for lens board mounting for the lens its even better. If not a press-fit is needed, there are several ways to do that, sometimes even glue works. And if there is a step-up or step-down adapter available for the thread that can also serve as a replacement ring.
T-mount is easiest. Take out the inner ring by loosening the three screws until the ring comes out. If you are lucky the lens will be just the right size ( to fit inside the T-mount ) and can be gripped by the screws. Usually I wrap the back end of the lens with tape so the screws have something to grip and it doesn't scratch the lens.
Note that the inside diameter of T-mounts (and the size of ring) are not standard. So some brands can work and others not.
I have also modified a T-mount by replacing the screws with much longer ones, so it works for a bigger range of lenses.
The reverse adapter will work if you are lucky and there is a step-up or step-down ring available that fits the thread on your lens. You will also need a F-F thread adapter and maybe another step-up or step-down ring to match your reverse adapter.
So, as an example, if the Rodenstock thread is 55mm and the reverse adapter thread is 52mm
- Reverse adapter(52mm)+52-58mm Step-down+58mm F-F + 55-58mm step-down _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Krisgage
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 681 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Krisgage wrote:
Hi Luis
Thanks for the details. I will give it a shot when my macro tubes comes and whatever rings I could find over here. Hope I could make it works just like CZJ Tessar. _________________ Photos and Lenses Journal
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Krisgage
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 681 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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Krisgage wrote:
Yesterday, I went to test this lens again with my OM bellow.
more photos over here.
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,144609.html#144609 _________________ Photos and Lenses Journal
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