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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 11:38 pm    Post subject: Gazania Reply with quote

Gazania, a flower which starts to more and more fascinate me, especially since I do that "strange stuff" as some might call that [UV, Fluorescence, Bee Vision, IR,...] .... have a look if that does touch you.

There is so much beauty outside that world that we humans think we know all about ... we just don't have the senses for (well, some do).

Shot using off the shelf D70, modified to Nikon Noflexar X35mm lens, UV High Power Xenon Flash lamp.

#1 VIS shot:


#2 UV shot using Baader-U filter (310-390nm):


#3 UV shot using slightly blue leaking UG filter:


#4 "Bee Vision" Filter XBV2 shot (i.e. UV+VIS):


#5 UV induced visible Fluorescence shot using XCUT2 filter (400-650nm):


#6 IR Filter shot using B+W 092 filter (>675nm):


... and YESSSS, all shot using a purely MF lens, even the exposure was set manually and the flash is also unregulated....but no, no black cloth over my head while I take pics and no wet collodium used Wink Wink

*** EDIT ***

Guess I owe you a bit more detailled explanaition about that "Bee Vision" thing.

Bees have in contrary to us humans a special receptor in their eye which has a UV sensitivity which peaks around 360nm (UV-A). They also have a blue and green sensitive receptor - quite similar to what we have. So we more or less share these two receptors. The red receptor we have, the bees don't have ---> Bees don't see red. So in short:
Human: B, G, R
Bee: UV, B, G

Now some years ago I started to be fascinated by the idea, how it would look like, if we humans had the ability to see UV and if I could find a method to simulate that. Well, but we can't see UV, so a method to "map" this sensititvity into our 400-700nm range.

Therefore I usually took two shots, a visible (VIS) one: B+G+R plus a pure UV shot using a narrowband filter (310-390nm), so as to have all the needed information to simulate "Bee Vision" [there is more differences than that of course, but for now lets stay with that one difference only for the sake of simplicity...].

So pixelwise combining these two shots #1 + #2 (quite a cumbersome process if you think about wind, changing filters, movement of the setup etc. [*]) into one resulting image should give the wanted "Bee Vision". In principle two mappings make sense:
1) UV-->Blue, B-->Green, G-->Red which is like a "transposition" in music, but has the disadvantage that the colors we and the bees can see (Blue, Green) change for us into (Green, Red)
2) UV-->Red, B-->Blue, G-->Green which is using the "unused" red channel, has the advantage that the colors we and the bees can see (Blue, Green) stay the same, but for me it knacks in my head since it collides with teh "Bees can't see red" axiom and UV is a short wavelength like blue, no long like red.
3) UV-->Violet/Blue, B-->Blue, G->Green and R-->Red is the one I mostly use, since that works together with our expectations, "our" visible colors remain the same. (With blue flowers (esp. having an UV pattern) it won't work well obviously.) Next step would be to match the "Bees don't see Red" axiom, by suppressing the red channel of the resulting image. [But sometimes I don't do that last step, as in #4]
[*] I have now invented a specilized filter with allows to do all that with just one shot #4, so eliminates all that cumbersome process of having to shoot two identical images - called XBV filter


Last edited by kds315* on Mon May 18, 2009 8:38 am; edited 4 times in total


PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Complately fascinating series !

One would have to say its the "bee vision" issue that has caused this unusual pattern in UV ? Its the bees that are an evolutionary factor.


PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love #4
All are amazing.


patrickh


PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Guys!


PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great!
Thanks for the look into a new, very fascinating world of macro Klaus.
And thanks too for the deep explanation, it helps to understand the world of UV photography.

Btw., I love your blog!


PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Klaus, can you disclose any details about your invention - XBV filter?


PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again, I hope it gave a bit insight about what I current resaearch on!

@Cezar: not for the time being, maybe at a later stage.


PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Extraordinary work, Klaus. I like it when uncommon things are done to get a better understanding of how animal/insect vision works. Of course, this is our interpretation because we do not know exactly how the bee brain sees its subject, isn't it? Imagine a field full of flowers, how exactly would a bee see it with its relatively coarse faceted eyes?


PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Klaus, I just stumbled across the photos on your Flickr account. Great stuff! Shocked


PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spotmatic wrote:
Extraordinary work, Klaus. I like it when uncommon things are done to get a better understanding of how animal/insect vision works. Of course, this is our interpretation because we do not know exactly how the bee brain sees its subject, isn't it? Imagine a field full of flowers, how exactly would a bee see it with its relatively coarse faceted eyes?


Thanks! Well, the faceted eyes are another aspect where a bee's and our vision differs a lot. It ihas be said that a bee can see only quite unsharp at further away objects and that the vision get better when it approaches closer. This will be the next step in foing my simulations, but I'm still quite busy with my first works...


PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spotmatic wrote:
Klaus, I just stumbled across the photos on your Flickr account. Great stuff! Shocked


Well, that is actually older stuff and very selected since I mainly post my new developsments is my BLOG (see footer) and the corresponding pictures I hold in my pbase site.


PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is definitely is ART! Shocked Wow!


PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Carsten,

I try to accomplish both actually: scienece + art!

Cheers,


PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't express how impressed I am with your fantastic use of light! Extraordinary!


PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Laurence!! Embarassed


PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

luisalegria wrote:
Completely fascinating series !

One would have to say its the "bee vision" issue that has caused this unusual pattern in UV ? Its the bees that are an evolutionary factor.


Luis,

the interesting thing is that during evelution it seems, that all species had tetrachromatic vision (4 Receptors) and many of the species had an UV receptor plus three from the visible spectrum. Obviously the mammals lost that UV receptor during evolution (which led to our trichromatic vision) while others (some reptiles, fishes, birds, insects) still have them, or lost the receptor for red (bees for instance) depending in which environment they lived and if they had a benefit from that. It is quite a complicated interaction I would say. There are even animals which lost that fourth receptor and then later during evolution gained it back again (actually as a side effect o one of the existing ones), like a special species of bats in Panama. This is currently being investigated in detail.

Funny enough a study in Californa in 1999 tried to prove that about 1 in 1.000.000 women might also have tetrachromatic vision which leads to a much fines ability to differentiate colors!! This is genetically bound to the two X chromosomes, so the bad massage is - not for men (which genetically have anyway issues like the red/green blindness etc.).

Oh well.... but at least it has been reported that there are some humans which also have UV vison so I'm not alone....
http://starklab.slu.edu/humanUV.htm Wink