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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:46 pm    Post subject: Really grainy film? Reply with quote

I have an idea for a photoshoot, and I wanted to do it in film and I need some that is really grainy, either 120, 220, or 35mm (I have cameras for all three)

I'd like B/W, but I can always convert later.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of date Foma 400 I find is very grainy. It was pretty grainy even when not out of date, in D-76.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Really grainy film? Reply with quote

attack_donut wrote:
I have an idea for a photoshoot, and I wanted to do it in film and I need some that is really grainy, either 120, 220, or 35mm (I have cameras for all three)

I'd like B/W, but I can always convert later.


-Ilford DELTA 3200, Tmax 3200 or any other very fast B/W film will be grainy while having still a very good tonal range.
-Rodinal development often produces a harder grain than Xtol and co., if you want to develope it yourself (depends on film and dev. times and temperature though)
-Use a ND filter if you wan't to shoot in dailight.
-35mm film will produce much more visible grain
Delta Ilford 3200 with Rodinal, 120 film
http://pentaxforums.s3.amazonaws.com/bronica/Ilford_3200_roll_19_009_PS.jpg
Delta Ilford 3200 with Xtol, 120 film
http://www.blende9.de/extern/aphog/anne_0769.jpg


PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not just film but also handling it is important. I think push-proces and some acute developer should work. I won´t use delta or Tmax as they´re less grainy than classic emulsions, unless you want to shoot in bad light or have ND filters. Foma400 or Ilford Pan400 in 35mm, pushed to 800, developed in Rodinal - that should do the trick.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also shoot in very overcast or rainy weather. I had excessive grainyness from almost-spent D-76 one time. I had done 24+ rolls without replenishing.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips. Fomapan 400 seems readily available on eBay (the local camera shops are *worthless* here) and I look forward to giving them a try.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I highly suggest to find some expired Ilford SFX 200 film. It has more grain than a classic 400 film, i've developed only once in tetenal ultrafin, have to try with Ilfosol 3, i get 5 rolls expired by 2006. i'll push it to 400 . will get back with results Very Happy


PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best way to get grainy negatives, from any film, is to push development by two stops.


PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Add grain using Silver Efex plugin. This way it's less guesswork.


PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A roll of cheap C-41 colour film developed in BW chemistry will give you lots of grain:



PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@iangreenhal: I´ve noticed these photos in another thread. The grain looks quite blurry and the tonality is somewhat ugly, is that because of scanning or is it the film itself?


PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A little of both probably. If a vintage, lo-fi look is desired it can be effective.