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Attila wrote:
I never seen this kind of Jupiter-9 finish.
http://www.dvdtechcameras.com/lens/35slrl/73/73.htm
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Me neither!!
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:34 am Post subject: Interesting Jupiter-9 |
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vilva wrote:
I haven't seen one either. It is for a Kiev-10 like this http://cameras.alfredklomp.com/kiev10/ - quite an interesting camera, but the lenses for it might be rather hard to find.
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Borges wrote:
Yes, seems to be an own version for Kiev. Following the logo, this lens was manufactured by arsenal in Kiev. The other version were produced in Krasnogorsk on Zeiss sonnar machinery first, later in Lytkarino by LZOS.
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Orio wrote:
At first glance, it doesn't even seem to have the preset ring.
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| At first glance, it doesn't even seem to have the preset ring. |
Rings are not present, the diaphragm/apertura is put from the camera/body.
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edumad wrote:
Yes the lens is in a special bayonet mount for Kiev 10/11/15.
the aperture is set by a knob on the camera.
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kansalliskala wrote:
Kiev 10-15 stuff (bodies, all sorts of lenses) were sold for peanuts here at Finnish auction site for about a year ago. No-one wanted them. You could have bought the whole set for 50 €. Shame I didn't understand it then.
like this:
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huuto.net%2Ffi%2Fshowitem.php3%3Fitemid%3D97872912&sl=fi&tl=en&history_state0=
and this:
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Yes the lens is in a special bayonet mount for Kiev 10/11/15.
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Kiev-11 does not exist.
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kansalliskala wrote:
Try ars'n all - they sell you Kiev 11 for $ 7200.
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kansalliskala wrote:
Actually Camerapedia says it does?
http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Kiev_10
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Yes, that's where I saw it as well.
Probably wasn't around for long, being an intermediary model. But it did exist , was sold and shared the same mount with the Kiev 10.
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estudleon wrote:
| Kamerer wrote: |
| Orio wrote: |
| At first glance, it doesn't even seem to have the preset ring. |
Rings are not present, the diaphragm/apertura is put from the camera/body. |
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Kamerer wrote:
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| Try ars'n all - they sell you Kiev 11 for $ 7200. |
And what site at them?
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Kamerer wrote:
And here it is not mentioned.
http://www.rus-camera.com/camera.php?page=kiev&camera=kiev10
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Kamerer wrote:
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Yes, that's where I saw it as well.
Probably wasn't around for long, being an intermediary model. But it did exist , was sold and shared the same mount with the Kiev 10. |
Thanks for the information. It is a prototype. "... By 1970 the model prototype" Kiev-11 "(the photo below see), with exp., transferred on the left part of the chamber has been prepared. The model serially was not issued..."
On the second reference it is mentioned Kiev 16... Interestingly what is it?
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Poolhall wrote:
Some of these Arsenal lens were made in m42, but very few, basically the bayonet fitting for the Kiev 10/15mount was changed for screw. I'm not sure if the J9 was one of them,but there was a trial run of Mir-1 lenses made like that. They look very similar to this, there was one on ebay a while ago |
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kansalliskala wrote:
That was a joke, sorry to confuse.
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kansalliskala wrote:
Strangely enough they have the set I didn't buy for about 50 €.
http://arsenalphoto.com/ge/product.asp?pid=115968&cat1=30&cat2=368&cat3=1&catx=0&keys=&caty=0&size=&sort=&dir=&pg=1#
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Kamerer wrote:
The good set, but in the complete set does not suffice Jupiter-9 Avtomat and Granit-11.
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kansalliskala wrote:
It looks brand new also.
I think Granit with Kiev 10/15 mount is impossible to get anywhere.
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Kamerer wrote:
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I think Granit with Kiev 10/15 mount is impossible to get anywhere. |
Early objective of Granit-11 to find simply,
http://cgi.ebay.com/Russian-lens-GRANIT-11-M42-zoom-pentax-zenit-contax_W0QQitemZ350177282888QQihZ022QQcategoryZ3323QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247
and here the replaceable tail adapter for Kiev-10/15 rare.
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kansalliskala wrote:
I'd buy it even for the yellow case if I had $ 150 to spend .. 
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Kamerer wrote:
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| I'd buy it even for the yellow case if I had $ 150 to spend .. |
Yes, it is a good yellow case, and at me modest black . If not to hasten, it is possible to buy much more cheaply, in Russia it happens for 40-60$.
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