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Distagon 2.8/21 - samples 1
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Distagon 2.8/21 - samples 1 Reply with quote

Well, I was trying to take some pictures -- ISO 100 and long exposures ...

Thanks to my brother for providing his 5D Mk II..

So, there are only TWO things to be worried about: -- distortion and flare -- it's visible on one picture

This is a small gallery of pictures taken at Winchester Cathedral -- very nice subject and also Winchester is the ancient capital of England.. Smile

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I didn't do an exposure fusion and also my stand is a crap -- I need a better one.. Smile

Some adjustments done in Adobe LightRoom and then a few clicks in Photoshop..
I think they are not the best ones.. Smile

Please, I am providing FULL SIZE pictures here, so have a patient..

http://photo.homer.sk/mf_lenses_gallery/000-d21-1/IMG_9906.jpg

http://photo.homer.sk/mf_lenses_gallery/000-d21-1/IMG_9918.jpg

http://photo.homer.sk/mf_lenses_gallery/000-d21-1/IMG_9923.jpg

http://photo.homer.sk/mf_lenses_gallery/000-d21-1/IMG_9944.jpg


thanks

tf


PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Impressive ! May I publish them in mflenses.com/gallery ?


PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely amazing!


PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
Shocked Impressive ! May I publish them in mflenses.com/gallery ?


Attila I am giving you a right to publish these as a samples for this forum because I am glad to be a member of this. Smile

Please, if you can, just put the name TRIFOX on them with a copyright and 2009
..or I may do that, if this can wait ... Smile

tf


PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish to give you membership at gallery and you can publish them into own folder and I will link them to main stream. How is this sound ?
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/mfl_club_members/
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/mfl_club_members/orio/


PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nicely done.


PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mind blowing.

Now I understand the reason of the used value of this lens.


PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio wrote:
Now I understand the reason of the used value of this lens.


Oh, it's very expensive, is it? Damn Very Happy


PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

congrats Tf!
the 100% crop are deceiving, not for resolution but for textures who look ultra jpged.
The files are 20Mb and should be perfect, have you checked your workflow.
I believe 5DII can do more otherwise it is time to use some film to really enjoy this lens


PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the Distagon 21 didn't hit the 5D MkII mirror... or did you shave it?


PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

poilu wrote:
congrats Tf!
the 100% crop are deceiving, not for resolution but for textures who look ultra jpged.
The files are 20Mb and should be perfect, have you checked your workflow.
I believe 5DII can do more otherwise it is time to use some film to really enjoy this lens


I see what you mean. I see this type of course pixelization in the 50D images too sometimes. I think it is related to the new type of DIGIC processors. I never had that with the 5D and never did with the 400D.


PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio wrote:
I see what you mean. I see this type of course pixelization in the 50D images too sometimes. I think it is related to the new type of DIGIC processors. I never had that with the 5D and never did with the 400D

Maybe Tf used jpg instead of raw and digic made his 'magic'
On the Sony sensors, some noise reduction are made before the raw and are awful @100% but I think the Canon files are still untouched
Or the noise reduction are not at 0 in the raw conversion software
I expect perfection from a D21 and Tf samples are badly 'digits'


PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A G Photography wrote:
So the Distagon 21 didn't hit the 5D MkII mirror... or did you shave it?


No shaving of the 5D Mk II mirror is required for any Zeiss lenses I have got ..

It works fine..

tf


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poilu wrote:
Orio wrote:
I see what you mean. I see this type of course pixelization in the 50D images too sometimes. I think it is related to the new type of DIGIC processors. I never had that with the 5D and never did with the 400D

Maybe Tf used jpg instead of raw and digic made his 'magic'
On the Sony sensors, some noise reduction are made before the raw and are awful @100% but I think the Canon files are still untouched
Or the noise reduction are not at 0 in the raw conversion software
I expect perfection from a D21 and Tf samples are badly 'digits'


Well, all pictures taken in RAW mode. The conversion might have been affected by my processing Smile

I will try it again and send one example once again...

Thanks for comments ...

@ Orio -- I have heard about people they returned their 5D Mk ii and went back for old 5D -- it might be a reason for that ...


PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will try a new conversion anyway Smile

tf


PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is amazing, though some shot (3-rd one) does not seem to have depth, i mean not DoF.
I love the second shot best, very good.


PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trifox, if you would like to share one RAW file of this series, I can try and see how it does here - I have the experience of the 50D files to compare.

By the way I don't think it's a matter of Trifox's conversion - I rather think it's more likely a matter of exposure and perhaps ISO settings.


PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio wrote:
Trifox, if you would like to share one RAW file of this series, I can try and see how it does here - I have the experience of the 50D files to compare.

By the way I don't think it's a matter of Trifox's conversion - I rather think it's more likely a matter of exposure and perhaps ISO settings.



Yes, of course!

As soon as I come back to home - there will be a link to the RAW shot ..

tf


PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not only a great subject to show the strength of the lens, but also great composition as well, really nice to 'look around' your photos, thanks.


PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for all your comments!

Thanks once again to Andy - F16SUNSHINE who helped me with the transaction from the States Smile

The RAW link is coming soon ... Smile

tf


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrghhh!!

I wanted to send the file with number 9905 instead of 9906!!!

So this is 9905 as JPG -- has not been seen yet:
http://photo.homer.sk/mf_lenses_gallery/000-d21-1/IMG_9905.jpg

And this is 9906 as JPG --- it has been seen in the first post:
http://photo.homer.sk/mf_lenses_gallery/000-d21-1/IMG_9906.jpg


And RAWs:

9905:
http://photo.homer.sk/mf_lenses_gallery/000-d21-raw/IMG_9905.CR2.zip

9906 - has been seen before:
http://photo.homer.sk/mf_lenses_gallery/000-d21-raw/IMG_9906.CR2.zip


Orio, can you play with them Smile ?? I know it will last a bit ..

Thanks

tf


PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's my conversion. I used the first file because it was more exposed to the right so I could recover a better dynamic range.
My contrast style is a bit different from Trifox's (who shoot with minimum contrast), I prefer to use more contrast even if it means to lose a little at both ends of the histogram. It's an aesthetical choice, not without drawbacks.
I also changed the white balance to a value that would fit better my taste. For the rest, I did not make any postwork except resize, so if you notice differences in the image quality of the 100% crops (posted in the Oversize Gallery), they are only due to the different RAW conversion program. I use Breezebrowser Pro:



PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's the link to the thread with the crops:
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,131881.html#131881


PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful presentation TF!
You make a nice first outing with this lens. I'm inspired to try mine now Smile