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voytek
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 Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:40 pm Post subject: What is so special regarding this Biotar? |
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voytek wrote:
Click here to see on Ebay
Probably description:
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Seller will be happy for sure.
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luisalegria
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Very early M42 ?
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Attila
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
This is looks early pre-war lens , but title say on front 58mm I expect 5.8 cm here. Mostly IQ is less than later lenses. I seen first time this lens in aluminum finish, might be not genuine or very , very rare.
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PaulC
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Attila
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
This review is done by me from later edition what is pretty common.
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Ballu
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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Ballu wrote:
I am for Attila view, "may not be genuine.."
Seems to me, some one put the later lenses front ring to earlier version... (which has company name and FL etc...)
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bawang
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bawang wrote:
I have seen on eBay similar looking housing/barrel but was black in color. It went for something like $80 attached to a camera. My guess is this must be early pre-war version. |
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no-X
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no-X wrote:
I have exactly the same version. 58mm, pre-war design, but post-war production, ALU.
http://forum.mflenses.com/my-new-jenas-t13382.html
The lens is not common. It's not pre-set, but full-manual and it has 17 iris blades.
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Attila
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Yes! Yours has also 58mm label. So seems lens is valid.
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voytek
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voytek wrote:
Well, it looks that I have earlier copy. This is not aluminum body but chrome one. My guess is that somebody here has the same copy, not alu.
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Retro
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Retro wrote:
This chrome-Biotar seems to me close to the rare "black-Biotar":
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Esox lucius
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Esox lucius wrote:
I have an alu version fully manual and with 17-bladed iris, 58mm so it's postwar version. Smaller than the newer versions and it has protruding back element.
Apart from the focusing scale (3.75m marking in that auction photo) they look the same to me?
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no-X
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no-X wrote:
automatic?
mine was taken from this praktica:
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voytek
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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voytek wrote:
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This chrome-Biotar seems to me close to the rare "black-Biotar":
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It looks that it is popular and very cheap (just joking) look at Maxim post here http://forum.mflenses.com/my-small-collection-classic-german-lenses-t11895.html, I think that 24 euro for this lens is quite fair price 
My copy is manual only. Also 17 blades aperture.
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no-X
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no-X wrote:
Ouch! I spent €29 for mine 
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Attila
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Black one can reach above 100 EUR or more if you find and also you can get for lot less. One of my copy absolutely crap owner did clean with sand paper both side, unusable soft. Other copy is more less same than later Alu version.
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