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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008
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Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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 Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:58 pm Post subject: my new Jenas :-) |
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no-X wrote:
I recieved 4 new M42 CZJ lenses this week:
CZJ Tessar T 50/2.8
CZJ Tessar T 40/4.5
CZJ Biotar T 58/2 (old version based on pre-war design, 17 iris blades)
aus Jena Pancolar 55/1.4
CZJ Tessar T 50/2.8
- surprisingly doesn't have stick focusing, but this lens is not very sharp, it seems to be less sharp than the Biotar. Is it normal? I heard that Tessars are very sharp, but I'm not sure, if it isn't valid only for the later design from sixties(?)
CZJ Tessar T 40/4.5
- sticky focusing (my serviceman won't be very happy  ), unfortunately this nice lens cannot be used with my Sigma SD14, at least at infinity (interferes with dust filter) 
CZJ Biotar T 58/2
- very similar to pre-war version, but this one is from fifties and has alu body... sticky focusing. Diaphragm contains 17 blades and is fully manual. Glass contains Biotar bubbles. According to my quick testing, this version is sligtly less sharp, than the later pre-set version (I'll make direct comparision later). This Biotar is very small, smaller than any other Biotar and Helios 58/2 lenses, even smaller than Tessars
aus Jena Pancolar 55/1.4
- works good, has some coating marks. Glass is horribly yellow (thorium), I'll try my UV lamp... it seems, that this lens could have quite good bokeh
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Two of them rare and exceptional 1.4/55 and 40mm lenses.
Yellow is absolutely normal on 1.4/55 and not impact anything don't cure!
Both are wonderful lenses keep them in big respect!
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/zeiss/pancolar_001/carl_zeiss_jena_pancolar_55mm_f1_4/
Taken with my yellow glass.
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no-X
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Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
Unfortunately, the yellowed glass outfilters almost whole blue channel and my Foveon doesn't manage it very well. This Pancolar is much more yellow than any Takumar I have ever seen.
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
My Pancolar is yellow fully and Olympus E-1 handle without any problem.
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themoleman342
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themoleman342 wrote:
Those are gorgeous!! I would kill to have the pancolar! A UV lamp for a month or so will remedy the yellowing. |
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Mal1905
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Location: Dublin, Ireland
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| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Mal1905 wrote:
They're all delicious lenses, but that Pancolar is in another league altogether.
Congratulations on this great purchase  |
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voytek
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voytek wrote:
When your Biotar will be fixed you will be really surprised. Astonish bokeh (17 aperture leaves) and very sharp wide open. I have the same one. Mine doesn't look like alu, rather stainless steel. Better then sex
Great group of very good lenses.
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Mal1905
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Mal1905 wrote:
| voytek wrote: |
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It's comments like this that make me want to spend even more money in the search for my perfect set of lenses [/i] |
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sichko
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sichko wrote:
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Better then sex
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Just like cricket then (according to Harold Pinter who died a couple of days ago).
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Esox lucius
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Esox lucius wrote:
I have 12-bladed Tessar 2.8/50 and when compared to Biotar 2/58 17-bladed (0.9m near focus) the Tessar is more detailed but with uglier bokeh wide open. When stopped down to f/5.6 the Biotar wins over the Tessar.
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Nikon DSLR: D4, D800, Nikon D3, D70
Nikon SLR: Nikon F100, Nikon FM2n
Nikkor MF: 20/2.8 Ai-S, 24/2 Ai-S, 24/2.8 Ai-S, 28/2 Ai-S, 28/2.8 Ai-S, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 Ai-S, 45/2.8 GN, 50/1.2 Ai, 50/1.2 Ai-S, 50/1.4 Ai, 50/1.4 Ai-S, 50/1.8 AI-S "long", 50/1.8 AI-S "short", 55/1.2 Ai, 85/1.4 Ai-S, 85/1.8H, 105/2.5 Ai, 135/2.8Q, 135/3.5 Ai, 180/2.8 Ai-S ED
Nikkor AF/AF-S FX: 14-24/2.8G, 16/2.8D Fisheye, 16-35/4G VR, 17-35/2.8D, 24/1.4G, 24/3.5D PC-E, 24/2.8D, 24-70/2.8G, 28/1.4D, 28/1.8G, 35/1.4G, 35/2D, 50/1.4D, 50/1.4G, 50/1.8G, 60/2.8 Micro, 60/2.8G Micro, 70-200/2.8G VR, 70-200/2.8G VR II, 80-400/4.5-5.6D VR, 85/1.4G, 85/2.8D PC-E Micro, 105/2D DC, 105/2.8G VR Micro, 135/2D DC, 200/2G VR, 200-400/4G VR, 300/2.8G VR, 300/4D ED, 400/2.8G VR, 800/5.6E VR
Nikkor AF/AF-S DX: 10.5/2.8G Fisheye, 12-24/4G, 18-70/3.5-4.5G
Topcor: Auto-Topcor 58/1.4,
Voigtländer SL: 40/2 Ultron, 58/1.4 Nokton, 75/2.5 Color-Heliar, 90/3.5 APO-Lanthar, 125/2.5 APO-Lanthar, 180/4 APO-Lanthar
Zeiss ZF: Planar T* 85/1.4 ZF
M42 SLR: Voigtländer Bessaflex TM
M42: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.4, Tessar 50/2.8 T, Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Biotar 58/2 T, Pentacon 135/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5
Medium format: several Zeiss Super Ikonta 532/16 Opton-Tessar 80mm f/2.8, Zeiss Ikonta 524/16 Opton-Tessar 75mm f/3.5
Leica: R7, M4, Super-Angulon-R 4/21, Elmarit-R 2.8/28, Summicron-R 2/35, Summicron-M 2/35, Summicron-M 2/50, Elmarit-R 2,8/180 |
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