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Attila
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 Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: B&W or color slide for snow |
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Attila wrote:
What is your experience what kind of film should I use for snow covered winter landscapes, trees ?
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Black and white for me:
www.oriofoto.net/temp/nevebw/index.html
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Very nice ! Which film ?
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Attila wrote: |
| Very nice ! Which film ? |
Canon 5DPan 
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Attila
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
 I used expired B&W at Tenerife result was crap.
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Hey Guys!
Rollei/Maco IR400
This is a film that is going to get a lot of attention from me.
I have used it for IR for a while and always loved it.
Here is the link from DR5. They are the guys who make negs into slides.
Doctor five feels this film is better than Agfa Scala in tonal range and has nice exposure latitude (25-400).
I have always found it to have the cleanest (lowest grain) dark and mid tones.
The thing is I must measure what I think based on "wet prints". I have yet to scan any.
I think Jules has some experience with the Rollei IR also. Maybe he will chime in.
Right click on the Portrait and click view image. It is not a very large file but you can see how true the film renders.
LINK:
http://www.blackandwhiteslide.com/rolleiir.html
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Katastrofo
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Katastrofo wrote:
Andy, some dazzling stuff for sure! You'll definitely be running with the big
dogs using that film and at $14.75 for processing (probably doesn't cover
the round trip airline ticket) hoping the results are everything you expect! 
Seems like the redoubtable Laurence mentioned DR5 and how wonderful it
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lulalake
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lulalake wrote:
| F16SUNSHINE wrote: |
Hey Guys!
Rollei/Maco IR400
This is a film that is going to get a lot of attention from me.
I have used it for IR for a while and always loved it.
Here is the link from DR5. They are the guys who make negs into slides.
Doctor five feels this film is better than Agfa Scala in tonal range and has nice exposure latitude (25-400).
I have always found it to have the cleanest (lowest grain) dark and mid tones.
The thing is I must measure what I think based on "wet prints". I have yet to scan any.
I think Jules has some experience with the Rollei IR also. Maybe he will chime in.
Right click on the Portrait and click view image. It is not a very large file but you can see how true the film renders.
LINK:
http://www.blackandwhiteslide.com/rolleiir.html |
Yes I've been using it for some time as a standard film (works great). I Beta tested it along with others for the "digital truth" site also (one of my favorite sites).
As you noted and I agree, it's the finest grain B&W film that I have ever used (but there are films I haven't tried) so I'm a great fan of the film. It is expensive though.
Other than that I use FP4+ (A bit less expensive especially in 120 format) |
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lulalake
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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lulalake wrote:
| Katastrofo wrote: |
Andy, some dazzling stuff for sure! You'll definitely be running with the big
dogs using that film and at $14.75 for processing (probably doesn't cover
the round trip airline ticket) hoping the results are everything you expect!
Seems like the redoubtable Laurence mentioned DR5 and how wonderful it
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Hi Bill,
Rollei 400IR film is basic B&W processing. You can use D76, Pyro or all sorts of developers. Cheap, cheap, cheap! I use Pyro.
Not a great shot but here's a pyro xample:
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Katastrofo wrote:
Jules, other than the fact you're rubbing it in you have very pretty models
and I don't, that is one helluva shot! (I think you can buy baseball bats by
the case, look into it.) What cam/lens did you use? Simply marvelous results!
Pyro, huh? Will have to check it out.
Thanks for sharing!
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LucisPictor wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
| Attila wrote: |
| Very nice ! Which film ? |
Canon 5DPan |
You can shoot winter (snow) shots with any film, just overexpose!
The camera meter is tricked by the bright white parts in the image and meters down, so overexpose to +1 and you should be fine.
You can test that with your DSLR first!
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Attila wrote:
Good idea ! Thanks Carsten!
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Nice one Jules
But this shot is still with a filter yes?
What has me so curious is the suggestion at DR5 that this film is best without a filter and rated to 200.
I'll try some soon and report.
Bill
Your correct the price is opulent for slides. Surely that would only be for special shoots.
I have had extremely clean results with it developing at home with Tmax dev. and D76.
The DR5 development would be fun to try but, only if I knew that the roll was loaded with gems
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lulalake wrote:
| Katastrofo wrote: |
Jules, other than the fact you're rubbing it in you have very pretty models
and I don't, that is one helluva shot! (I think you can buy baseball bats by
the case, look into it.) What cam/lens did you use? Simply marvelous results!
Pyro, huh? Will have to check it out.
Thanks for sharing!
Bill |
Thanks much Bill,
I have a few leftover good bats and a few broken Louisville Sluggers from the other three girls I raised. so no problem  .
The shot is from a Mamiya my 645AFD, (The Rollei 400IR film of course) and a Mamiya 80mm manual lens.
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lulalake wrote:
| F16SUNSHINE wrote: |
Nice one Jules
But this shot is still with a filter yes?
What has me so curious is the suggestion at DR5 that this film is best without a filter and rated to 200.
I'll try some soon and report.
Bill
Your correct the price is opulent for slides. Surely that would only be for special shoots.
I have had extremely clean results with it developing at home with Tmax dev. and D76.
The DR5 development would be fun to try but, only if I knew that the roll was loaded with gems |
Thanks,
About the DR5 suggestions, I believe that has to do with the DR5 processing. Also the DR5 suggestions will not yield any IR effects, no white vegetation or "skin glow" effects. One still gets the fine grain of the and a great B&W film.
The girl's shot as I may have mentioned, was part of an IR focus point test using the red IR mark on a lens barrel.
Here are the full results of the test and an explanation of the test, filters, times aperture etc.
http://www.digitaltruth.com/products/product_tests/infrared_film_007.php
Basically, yes I used a Hoya R72 filter which is opaque, that is black and allows no visible light through. I used ASA 25 and 1/60th sec, aperture @2.8.
I had to focus, screw on the filter a few threads then shoot. (Pretty standard for SLR IR shooting with an R72 filter).
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Katastrofo
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Katastrofo wrote:
Jules, had a hunch it was a medium format shot, nice cam/lens! I'll be
shooting some Acros 100, but will try the Rollei film as well, thanks! |
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spiralcity wrote:
| LucisPictor wrote: |
| Orio wrote: |
| Attila wrote: |
| Very nice ! Which film ? |
Canon 5DPan |
You can shoot winter (snow) shots with any film, just overexpose!
The camera meter is tricked by the bright white parts in the image and meters down, so overexpose to +1 and you should be fine.
You can test that with your DSLR first! |
I usually use a simple gray card to meter on. This does the trick 100% of the time. |
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