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bramms
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 Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:44 am Post subject: Best of manual 50mm f1.4 |
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bramms wrote:
Hi all!
I want to buy manual lens 50/1.4 for my Canon 20D.
I have sold my lovely SMC Takumar 50/1.4 because the lens was radioactive with 300 beta and 200 gamma....
Please tell me something about the best manual 50/1.4 lenses and prices
Nikkor 50/1.4 ais ? non ais?
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4 ?
M42 Yashica DX ? DS ? 50/1.4
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Thanks!
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Orio wrote:
I think that Nikkors are probably the best 50mm lenses.
Of course Leica (Summicron) and Contax (Planar) are also excellent and so are the SMC Takumar 1.4/50 and the Pancolar 1.8/50.
With any of the above, you can't go wrong.
I have a Nikkor 1.4/50 for sale.
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bramms
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bramms wrote:
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I think that Nikkors are probably the best 50mm lenses.
Of course Leica (Summicron) and Contax (Planar) are also excellent and so are the SMC Takumar 1.4/50 and the Pancolar 1.8/50.
With any of the above, you can't go wrong.
I have a Nikkor 1.4/50 for sale. |
Best in sharpenes or 3D? 
I see on ebay ais & non ais versions... What's best? |
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peterqd wrote:
The best 1.4/50 I've used is the SMC Takumar, sorry. There was absolutely no reason to sell it because of radioactivity. You've been reading scare stories.
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CraziestOzzy wrote:
I hope your buyer of the lens was told that the one your selling is great for night shots...as it glows in the dark 
Those rads are at a completely harmless level btw
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LucisPictor wrote:
These are 1.4/50mm lenses that I personally can recommend:
Takumar 1.4/50
Olympus Zuiko 1.4/50
Revuenon 1.4/55 (Tomioka)
Voigtländer Color-Ultron 1.4/55
And I have seen shots taken with...
Nikkor AI 1.4/50
Leica Summilux 1.4/50
Zeiss Planar 1.4/50
... that tell me that these lenses are absolutely fantastic!
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bramms
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bramms wrote:
Scary stories? I have Geiger counter 
For two my Takumars(with yellow glass)...
on rear lens:
SMC: 300 beta, 200 gamma
Super: 600 beta, 450 gamma
in air: 5 beta
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| These are 1.4/50mm lenses that I personally can recommend:.........Voigtländer Color-Ultron 1.4/55... that tell me that these lenses are absolutely fantastic! |
I had a rolleiflex SL 35 E with the Rolleinar 55/1,4 lens (mamiya ones identical, the same lens, than the voigtlander Color Ultron for Voigtlander camera, identical to Rollei SL series).
My copy was not very contrast (more neutral), nice images but with noticiable barrel distortion. Question to expect in the 1,4 lenses, but very noticiable in my rolleinar 1,4.
Did I have a bad copy?
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LucisPictor wrote:
| estudleon wrote: |
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| These are 1.4/50mm lenses that I personally can recommend:.........Voigtländer Color-Ultron 1.4/55... that tell me that these lenses are absolutely fantastic! |
I had a rolleiflex SL 35 E with the Rolleinar 55/1,4 lens (mamiya ones identical, the same lens, than the voigtlander Color Ultron for Voigtlander camera, identical to Rollei SL series).
My copy was not very contrast (more neutral), nice images but with noticiable barrel distortion. Question to expect in the 1,4 lenses, but very noticiable in my rolleinar 1,4.
Did I have a bad copy?
Rino. |
You might want to check this: http://forum.mflenses.com/a-day-in-the-life-of-a-voigtlaender-marburg-impressions-t4903,highlight,voigtl%E4nder+ultron.html
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no-X wrote:
Many 50mm lenses use radioactive glass elements, but only Takumars and a few others are known to be radioactive because the radioactivity has visible impact - yelowed glass. There i a lot of people, who are scared of Takumars, but I have never seen any single person, who would sell his Industars, Tomiokas, Pancolars, Yashinons or other lenses just because of thorium or lanthanum. E.g. Pancolar 55/1.4 is several times more radioactive, than SMC Takumar and nobody cares
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bramms wrote:
I see on ebay Nikkor-S, Nikkor, Nikkor ais, Nikkor non ais .....
Who is best???
I have adapter Nikon-F -> Canon EOS 
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LucisPictor wrote:
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I see on ebay Nikkor-S, Nikkor, Nikkor ais, Nikkor non ais .....
Who is best???
I have adapter Nikon-F -> Canon EOS |
It is hard to say which of these lense is the "best" one.
Some say that the later lenses (AI-S) offer a better coating etc. but other like the character of the pre-AI lenses.
I have got a Nikkor-S.C 1.2/55 (pre-AI) and I just love it!
In other words: unless you get a lemon (e.g. a copy that someone unqualified did a surgery on), you will really like a Nikkor 1.4/50!
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ChrisLilley wrote:
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I see on ebay Nikkor-S, Nikkor, Nikkor ais, Nikkor non ais .....
Who is best???
I have adapter Nikon-F -> Canon EOS |
Nikkor-S is a pre-AI lens. This affects which Nikon cameras it can be mounted on but should not affect its use on EOS with an adapter. The contrast on this uncoated lens will be lower and it is more susceptible to flare.
Nikkor-S.C is the multicoated version. It has excellent contrast. Its slightly soft wide open but rapidly improves. I have, like and use this lens. The S and S.C are solidly and carefully made, heavy.
These lenses were replaced by the AI and then the AIS versions. There is no practical difference between them, when using an EOS adapter, except that the AIS may have a sort (fast, less precise) focus throw. These are still pretty well made, although cost cutting is starting to affect them in small ways.
There is also a Nikon (not Nikkor) "E" series 50mm which is small, super light, cheaply made and with lower contrast and bad flare performance (must be used with a hood).
For lots of information, start here
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/50mmnikkor/index2.htm
and continue on to the other parts of that series. Tells you all about lots of Nikkor 50mm lenses.
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Ballu wrote:
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These are 1.4/50mm lenses that I personally can recommend:
Takumar 1.4/50
Olympus Zuiko 1.4/50
Revuenon 1.4/55 (Tomioka)
Voigtländer Color-Ultron 1.4/55
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Interesting, same set as mine.... Instead of Revuenon, mine is Sears branded.. and your Voigtländer Color-Ultron is Rolleinar branded Iin my pack)...
(although Sears, Revuenon, Tomioka, Rolleinar and Voigtländer Color-Ultron are same lenses.. just different branded and mounts..)
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hacksawbob wrote:
I had a bit of a 50 1.4 fetish for a while I found the Contax took some beating
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the yashica ML 50 1.4 held its own it this highly unscientific test, it was possibly a smidge sharper at 1.4 but the colours are cooler, certainly worth it if money comes into it.
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LucisPictor
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LucisPictor wrote:
| Ballu wrote: |
| LucisPictor wrote: |
These are 1.4/50mm lenses that I personally can recommend:
Takumar 1.4/50
Olympus Zuiko 1.4/50
Revuenon 1.4/55 (Tomioka)
Voigtländer Color-Ultron 1.4/55
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Interesting, same set as mine.... Instead of Revuenon, mine is Sears branded.. and your Voigtländer Color-Ultron is Rolleinar branded Iin my pack)...
(although Sears, Revuenon, Tomioka, Rolleinar and Voigtländer Color-Ultron are same lenses.. just different branded and mounts..) |
Good taste, Ballu!
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Richard_D wrote:
I like the Nikkor AI 1.4, but the barrel distortion is a bit off-putting. The Arsat 1.4 is a very good lens too...
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Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
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estudleon wrote:
| LucisPictor wrote: |
| estudleon wrote: |
| LucisPictor wrote: |
| These are 1.4/50mm lenses that I personally can recommend:.........Voigtländer Color-Ultron 1.4/55... that tell me that these lenses are absolutely fantastic! |
I had a rolleiflex SL 35 E with the Rolleinar 55/1,4 lens (mamiya ones identical, the same lens, than the voigtlander Color Ultron for Voigtlander camera, identical to Rollei SL series).
My copy was not very contrast (more neutral), nice images but with noticiable barrel distortion. Question to expect in the 1,4 lenses, but very noticiable in my rolleinar 1,4.
Did I have a bad copy?
Rino. |
You might want to check this: http://forum.mflenses.com/a-day-in-the-life-of-a-voigtlaender-marburg-impressions-t4903,highlight,voigtl%E4nder+ultron.html |
What a nice samples!! I didn't see them (I came in after this and didn't see al the previous posts).
I don't see the distortion that I remember had my rolleinar. The same contrast -low to normal-. Without hesitate, my copy was in the bad side or I remember it increasing the distortion.
Good for you. Rino.
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Misc. : jupiter 9
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A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
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Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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bramms
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Thanks a lot!!!
thinking about some of
Nikkor 50/1.4 vs Contax Carl Zeiss 50/1.4 vs other (Zuiko 50/1.4, Yashica 50/1.4)
On aperture 2.8-8 all lenses is extremly sharp, but on 1.4 not ever...
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LucisPictor
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LucisPictor wrote:
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| The same contrast -low to normal-... |
Really? Do you think this is a low contrast lens?
I mean, the contrast this lens produced on such an overcast day is rather nice, isn't it?
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poilu wrote:
on film, rendition of 50mm is different; the bokeh is much smooth and resolution higher.
If digital continue to improve, difference will be more visible between lens
Anyway, however you analyze it, it always end with a Zeiss
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estudleon wrote:
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| The same contrast -low to normal-... |
Really? Do you think this is a low contrast lens?
I mean, the contrast this lens produced on such an overcast day is rather nice, isn't it? |
Not low, I said low to normal (in a place equidistant, or so). I precise:
Not low contrast, is normal ones. But in case of skin, something in the scale of blues and greens seem to me to be normal minus contrast. But it's only my taste and subjetive appreciation.
May be this character is part of the faults of my copy, the same mode that it had a strong barrel distortion.
Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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estudleon
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Location: Argentina
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
| poilu wrote: |
on film, rendition of 50mm is different; the bokeh is much smooth and resolution higher.
If digital continue to improve, difference will be more visible between lens
Anyway, however you analyze it, it always end with a Zeiss |
I know that my option is a rangefinder, but LEICA M. Sorry Zeiss.
Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008
Posts: 3754
Location: Argentina
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
I forgot:
For use in low light places, the F/1,4 or 2 definition may be omitided.
If I choose a lens 1,4 because I want to use this DOF in good light situation, I need high definition and contrast
In the compromise that is a lens design, the definition and contrast at 1,4 are sacrificed to benefit F/4 to 11.
So I ask At 1,4 which is the best?
Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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