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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:01 pm    Post subject: Have a look at this! Reply with quote

Contax Planar 1.7/50:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/yoyo31/4438637772/sizes/o/

Thomas


PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Have a look at this! Reply with quote

madamasu wrote:
Contax Planar 1.7/50:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/yoyo31/4438637772/sizes/o/

Thomas


Oooooooooooohhhhhhhh

LOVELY ! Smile


PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks more like a mirror lens to me. The bokeh is too distracting for my tastes.


PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a bokeh connoisseur but it looks awful to me. If it wasn't for the main subject being sharp I would have said it suffered from terrible camera shake.

K.


PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it really difficult to look at this image due to the incredibly annoying bokeh. Have never seen results like that from the Planar until now...


PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bokeh "perfection" is about personal taste I think. Smile

I like this one, looks like a painture to me.


PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never used my 50:1.7 by night, look strange to me


PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice bokeh but why does it look like mirror lens? Are you sure that's the right lens? It doesnt look like f1.7 to me


PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

martinsmith99 wrote:
That looks more like a mirror lens to me. The bokeh is too distracting for my tastes.


I agree, though I like the unique bokeh personally.

I hypothesize that the photographer has added something to the Planar, perhaps by placing an opaque spot in the center of the front element and using a wide aperture, it would cause such an artifact in the bokeh much like the mirror lens.

I'm up to my ears in housework or I'd try it.


K.


PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's obviously a mirror lens. The long focal length is also visible from the very composition of the shot.


PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the EXIF-data it says: Contax Planar 50mm F 1.7 T* AEJ.
So what does AEJ mean?
He has two more portraits, all showing the same characteristics. I like the portrait of th boy very much an think it is one of the nicest portraits I have seen. As Lazzaros said, like a painting.

Thomas


PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madamasu wrote:
In the EXIF-data it says: Contax Planar 50mm F 1.7 T* AEJ.
So what does AEJ mean?


AE type, made in Japan. However, EXIF can say anything (anything can be programmed into an adapter) - the shot is taken with a different lens. A mirror lens, I would say.


PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thePiRaTE!! wrote:


I hypothesize that the photographer has added something to the Planar, perhaps by placing an opaque spot in the center of the front element and using a wide aperture, it would cause such an artifact in the bokeh much like the mirror lens.



... that's my opinion, too. The donought circle in the out of focus area is caused by diffraction on a centered element, like the secondary mirror of a mirror lens. The appearance of the Airy disc (diffraction phenomena) is not round shaped, it is donought shaped. Can be done by aligning some black or opaque circle on a clear filter (UV etc) in front of the lens.

See Airy disc:
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/diffraction-photography.htm
Create your own bokeh:
Like this, but the other way round, only blocking the center part.
http://www.diyphotography.net/diy_create_your_own_bokeh


PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wrote Yoyo a mail and that's what he answered:


"The picture was taken by the "Contax Planar 1.7/50" lens really. But the lens had added a matal slice in the rear elements set. The capture photo is amusing, seems like the mirror lens. You can visit the following site,
www.wretch.cc/blog/pipemore7/4772637

"AEJ" means: "AE" type and made in Japen."


Thomas


PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It remind me the bokeh of the Fujinon 4/85 SF wide open or F/5,6.

I don't like it. Perhap in preparated pic, with background ad-hoc and especial subject.


PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adding a "floating" disc behind the aperture ring will change the lens bookeh to a circular shape. By the way, you can try any shape as your Like too. Very Happy


PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice expression and lens , but crap background.


PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like it's a refection off the window behind the child.


PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like this photograph a lot. The bokeh is very interesting and captivating to look at. It does take away from the subject at first but once you focus in on the subject it really stands out nicely.

I'm a fan!


PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eye of the beholder, YMMV, yada yada, /disclaimer


I love bokeh. I love a lot of the bokeh that people here would consider ugly. I like over-done bokeh, I like swirly bokeh, I like psychedelic bokeh (e.g., Trioplan bokeh), I like rugby-ball bokeh, I like buttery smooth (or, to some, *mushy* bokeh, e.g., Sony/Minolta STF), I like 'em all.


Except this one. Even to me, the BG here is butt-ugly.


PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bokeh is offbeat but I think it's fine here. The circular background shapes mimic the boy's expression and make a puzzling but interesting connection. There's a kind of frantic energy to the image which could fit a child's view of a busy urban environment. I like the colors, too.

I don't know what possessed the photographer to alter his lens in this way. It might be difficult to come up with another image where the mod works as well as it does in this one.


PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 I love it

Thomas

There are a few more on his flickr pages. I don't know, why he went all the way to alter his lense like this, but it seems, he likes trying out new things.


PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madamasu wrote:
+1 I love it

Thomas

There are a few more on his flickr pages. I don't know, why he went all the way to alter his lense like this, but it seems, he likes trying out new things.

He is a lover of the Pinhole camera/lens. With such alternation, a normal lens could take similar photos as the pinhole lens.


PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like anything distinctive, some will like, some will not, but many will notice. I think it's safe to say - his effort has succeeded in this regard.

Otoh, as a photographer, I find it hard to be objective on whether I like it because it adds interest based on its actual appeal or simply because of it's technical qualities. In the end, I wonder if Joe Blow would even notice, lol.

K.


PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what happen with this lense, bokeh like mirror lense but it is exactly mirror lense.
But the child is so lovely Smile)