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Screamin Scott
Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Posts: 1014 Location: Dallas, Georgia USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject: Russian lenses |
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Screamin Scott wrote:
I'm going to start looking for some Russian lenses. I'd appreciate comments as to what to look for & what to stay away from....Thanks _________________ Cameras-Nikon D300, D7100,D610,FE2,FTN ,FT2,N90s, Olympus Pen EP-3 & Olympus OM-D E-M10
Nikkor AF Zooms=28-105/3.5D,28-70/3.5D,35-135/3.5, et al
Nikkor AF //50/1.8,//Nikkor MF//50/2ai,50/1.8ais 50/1.4ai,24/2.8ais,28/2.8ai,28/3.5ai,55microAis/2.8,105/2.5ai,200/4ai,300/4.5ai35-135/3.5Ais,et al
Kiron /Kino made lenses//70-210/4ai,28-105/3.2ai,30-80/3.5ai,Viv 28/2ai,35-85/2.8aiVivS1,105/2.8Ais Dine,24-48/3.8ai VivS1,50-150/3.8aiViv,28-85/2.8aiViv,100/2.8Nai Viv,70-210/3.5Nai Viv,28/2.5ai Viv Komine made Viv//24/2Ais,135/2.8aiCF,28-50/3.5ai,28-90/2.8ai Viv S1,80-200/4.5aiCosina made Viv 19/3.8 Ais...Also Sigma 24/2.8 Ais Tokina made24/2.8ai VivAF Sigma 21-35/3.5,& other lenses... A link to some of my Flickr albums...
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Poolhall
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 1296
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Poolhall wrote:
You cant go far wrong IMHO with a Jupiter 9, a Zenitar 16mm, any of the Helios 44's, or the Industar 50-2 or 61L/Z. There are others of course that people here will recommend. The key thing with Russian lenses is the quality control, which varies widely, so that one helios, for example, is a gem and the next a total lemon. Having said that I have around 10 Russian lenses of varying types and every one is worth keeping! |
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Lazzaros
Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 975
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
I have two Helios: 44-2 and 40-2
I love the 40-2 and 44-2 is very good too.
I had a Jupiter9 but I sold it to buy Helios 40-2. It was very sharp after f/4 |
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
Helios 44-2, 44-3, 77M, 40-2.
50mm Zenitars - they are not very known, but they are sharp and sometimes very cheap.
There are some interesting Russian lenses, but they are mostly not available in M42 versions, or they are very rare. E.g.:
Zenitar K 50/1.4
Zenitar K 85/1.4
Zenitar 1K 85/1.4
Jupiter 3 50/1.5
MIR 24 35/2
MIR 51M 15/3.5
MIR 64K 20/2.8
ERA 6M 50/1.5
Volna 4 50/1.4
Volna 10K 35/1.8
Rekord 4 52/0.9 _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Are you looking at Nikon mount Scott? Some of the lenses mentioned above are in M42 mount only and won't focus to infinity on a Nikon without a glass adapter. If you could confirm the mount and the FL you're looking for we can give you better help. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
For your Nikons, you have a best buy, the MIR-24N in Nikon mount. One of the best 35mm lenses that I have ever tried.
The Kaleinar 2.8/100 (also Nikon mount) is worth considering as well.
I would stay away from M42 mount lenses because they are not useable with Nikons without an optical adapter. Consider instead the Pentacon 6 lenses, amongst which you can find very good ones, such as the MIR-36B (65mm) and the Kaleinar-3 (150mm). _________________ Orio, Administrator
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revinhood
Joined: 29 May 2008 Posts: 53 Location: España
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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revinhood wrote:
I just buy a jupiter 37A, everyone speaks well of him. _________________ Pentax k100d / sigma 18-200 / pentax 50mm f/1,4 / samyang 8mm
Canon 5d + 40d / Canon 24-70 L / canon 70-200 L / tamron 90mm |
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NikonD
Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 1922 Location: Slovenija
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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NikonD wrote:
I have Zenitar 16/2.8 and Mir 35/2.... both are excellent lenses |
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Screamin Scott
Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Posts: 1014 Location: Dallas, Georgia USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Screamin Scott wrote:
peterqd,
I'm aware of the infinity focus issue with M42 mount & Nikon. I'd like to find some in Nikon mount, but they tend to be priced higher than the M42. I'm looking for any FL really, to compare against what I already have in similar FL...I just don't have any Russian or German lenses....All Japanese. _________________ Cameras-Nikon D300, D7100,D610,FE2,FTN ,FT2,N90s, Olympus Pen EP-3 & Olympus OM-D E-M10
Nikkor AF Zooms=28-105/3.5D,28-70/3.5D,35-135/3.5, et al
Nikkor AF //50/1.8,//Nikkor MF//50/2ai,50/1.8ais 50/1.4ai,24/2.8ais,28/2.8ai,28/3.5ai,55microAis/2.8,105/2.5ai,200/4ai,300/4.5ai35-135/3.5Ais,et al
Kiron /Kino made lenses//70-210/4ai,28-105/3.2ai,30-80/3.5ai,Viv 28/2ai,35-85/2.8aiVivS1,105/2.8Ais Dine,24-48/3.8ai VivS1,50-150/3.8aiViv,28-85/2.8aiViv,100/2.8Nai Viv,70-210/3.5Nai Viv,28/2.5ai Viv Komine made Viv//24/2Ais,135/2.8aiCF,28-50/3.5ai,28-90/2.8ai Viv S1,80-200/4.5aiCosina made Viv 19/3.8 Ais...Also Sigma 24/2.8 Ais Tokina made24/2.8ai VivAF Sigma 21-35/3.5,& other lenses... A link to some of my Flickr albums...
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sichko
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 2475 Location: South West UK
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
I have the following in Nikon mount
Zenitar N 2.8/16, MIR 24N 2/35, Telear N 3.5/200
Jupiter 11A 4/135, Jupiter 37A 3.5/135. Tair 11A 2.8/135, Jupiter 21A 4/200
The first 3 have automatic aperture; the others are preset.
Pentacon 6/Kiev88CM lenses will focus to infinity with a simple mechanical adapter. At the moment I have the Volna 3 2.8/80 - but I'm looking at others !!!
I also have the MIR 1 2.8/37, Industar 61 LZ 2.8/50 and Volna 9 2.8/50 which require a "glass adapter" for infinity focus on Nikon.
I have been very happy with each of these lenses. In my experience they compare favourably with German counterparts (CZJ 2.4/35, 2.8/50, 3.5/135, Pentacon 2.8/135) - and they are sometimes cheaper !!! _________________ John |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
Expire: 2014-01-04
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote: |
I just don't have any Russian or German lenses |
You're in for a pleasant surprise!
I'll let Richard_D tell you more about Russian lenses on Nikon. You should find some threads from him about it if you search. Virtually all the Russian SLR lenses were originally designed for M39 or M42 Zenit cameras, but some are available in Nikon or Pentax variants. You can often tell by the suffix after the lens name (e.g. Mir-24M is M42 and 24N is Nikon. Pentax mount have the K suffix). The Zenitar 2.8/16, Mir-24N 2/35 and Jupiter-37 3.5/135 are all available in Nikon mount and well worth getting. I don't know any poor Russian lenses, but the build quality is variable and I've had a couple of lenses with flare/contrast poroblems. And some, like the Tair-3 or Jupiter-21, are too big and heavy, at least for my comfort level. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
sichko wrote: |
I have the following in Nikon mount |
Excellent, I forgot you use a Nikon John! _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
Expire: 2011-11-18
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
I have a few in the P6 mount with adapter. They mainly focus to infinity. The Vega 11 is highly recommended (mine was a dud, but I was reimbursed and I shall try again soon.) The mir 65 seems very nice and the Kaleinar 150. These are fun pieces of galss on the little nikon because they are so big. Personally I love the character of the good russian lenses.
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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voytek
Joined: 24 Nov 2009 Posts: 891
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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voytek wrote:
Do not forget old Tair-11 2.8/133 - I can write one of my best portrait lenses. This is M39 mount but with simple M39/M42 adapter focusing to infinity. Amazing, like "zeiss" bokeh.
_________________ Cheers, Voytek |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I can confirm what Voytek said real jewelery. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:18 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Agree the Tair is one of my favourites. Jup 40 of course. Plenty of great Russian lenses
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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voytek
Joined: 24 Nov 2009 Posts: 891
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:47 am Post subject: |
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voytek wrote:
I forgot to mention that Tair is my only lens with 20 aperture leaves. The second position - Pentacon 4/300 - 19 leaves _________________ Cheers, Voytek |
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