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Rodenstock TV-Heligon
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:32 am    Post subject: Rodenstock TV-Heligon Reply with quote

And finally the package has arrived.
got 'em for virtually nothing, though the add was very undetailed.

3x bulky Rodenstock TV-heligon f=50mm w/ fixed iris. no value mentioned, but they behave damn fast.
Anyone ever seen this lens before?any idea about aperture size? (it's the lens on the right so guess not a 1:0.75, foto from the net)


Immediately i fell in love with the industrial look. and mounted to m42. Did some first test shots yesterday.

Very hard to focus indeed and so not perfect foto's (handheld w/windy and not very sunny conditions). but i really love the bokeh... uch... out of focus effect. Also the focus point from the front lens element seems to be quite usable (app. 15cm)




What's the strange blueish effect on the last pic? (noticable on all pics with a lot of black)



on my ccd c-mount video camera it was possible to mount the lens much closer to the pickup sensor (app 5mm) which resulted in way sharper image and a focus point of app. 27cm from the front lens element. unfortunately i'm not able to take snapshots at the moment (interline transfer ccd, app. half a megapixel...)

(ps, if someone is interested i'd like to swap 2 for someting similar, as they're all 3 similar)


PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dreamy!

The blue edges most probably are chromatic aberration on high contrast edges wide open.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would call it a CA festival Smile it even splits rays like prism.
I used to have this effect when mounting my videocamera wide additional on reflex lenses.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio wrote:
I would call it a CA festival Smile
„CA festival“… that's a good one. CA doesn't bother me too much, just call it „art“ and nobody will dear to say something about it Very Happy


PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Split in channels and you see why.

visual
blue
green
red

So you would usually focus on the green channel due to our eye which has the highest sensitivity around 540nm. These lenses have a very different focus for red and blue.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kds315* wrote:
So you would usually focus on the green channel due to our eye which has the highest sensitivity around 540nm. These lenses have a very different focus for red and blue.
So how you do that (focusing on green i mean)? You use a green filter? Cause this is the only solution i see, except if you shoot kinda tethered


PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I meant is that you focus on green (in a visible light picture) ANYWAY since this is the max sensitivity. You do it without knowing.
The outcome is what I showed.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These lenses are really designed for Green sensitivity. Usually use to capture X-Ray results for video streaming. After X-rays passes through the subject, to make the result visual to human eyes, hits some green chemical. (I forgot the name of the chemical). That green light is captured by these "really" fast lenses (as the the light emitted by chemical is very low in intensity).

I have 2 of these type of lenses... love those. And I think Rod 68/1.0 can do focussing to few feets on rangefinder (doing to 1.5 feet on Canon DSLR). I am hoping, I will be able to use these lenses for "funny" portraits with new mirror less cameras (micro 4/3 format)


PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phosphor / phosphoric is the "chemical substance".

Came (actually comes since some are still used) in different compositions i.e. usally doped with some rare earth elements which decided on color (= emission wavelength, from UV, over green to yellow and orange etc) and phosphorescence (= afterglow effect, which could be the same but also a very different color).

Here some spectra of recent phosphors:

http://lite.bu.edu/lite1/spectroscopy/spectra.html

and here a pretty neat article on phosphors:

http://www.answers.com/topic/phosphor


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Klaus
You consistently amaze


Smile Smile


patrickh


PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...and why would that be so??? Question