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Orio
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject: A walk with CZJ Flektogon 4/25 |
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Orio wrote:
The recent talk about the 25 Flek made me took this lens for my walk out this morning:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26917388@N00/sets/72157607773366167/
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Nice. Were they cropped?
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
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Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Orio
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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Nice. Were they cropped?
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No, no crop. Full frame images. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:09 am Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Your lens is fantastic. I don't see the problems at the borders that had Barata in his posts with the flekt 25.
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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spiralcity
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 1207 Location: Chicago, U.S.A
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:20 am Post subject: Nice |
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spiralcity wrote:
I love Ziess glass, as do many others. Unfortunatley I only own one Ziess lens the (Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar 50mm F2.8 M42 Zebra) I love this lens. I only shoot film and the images are excellent.
Thanks for posting the pics. I plan on adding the D90 to my collection soon and I was curious how the lens may perform. |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:11 am Post subject: Re: Nice |
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Orio wrote:
spiralcity wrote: |
I love Ziess glass, as do many others. Unfortunatley I only own one Ziess lens the (Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar 50mm F2.8 M42 Zebra) I love this lens. I only shoot film and the images are excellent.
Thanks for posting the pics. I plan on adding the D90 to my collection soon and I was curious how the lens may perform. |
Spiral, you will not be able to use this lens on your D90 - at least not without an optical adapter, which I don't advice to use, especially on this type of lens. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:16 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
estudleon wrote: |
Your lens is fantastic. I don't see the problems at the borders that had Barata in his posts with the flekt 25. |
Mine is a "Aus Jena" lens (western export) and the quality control on them was better.
These were taken wide open:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26917388@N00/2916816004/sizes/o/in/set-72157607773366167/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26917388@N00/2916816638/sizes/o/in/set-72157607773366167/
As you can see, there is a slight light falloff but the IQ decay in the corner is absolutely normal for a 25mm lens.
Plus the first shot displays a good 3D quality. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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spiralcity
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 1207 Location: Chicago, U.S.A
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:48 am Post subject: Re: Nice |
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spiralcity wrote:
Orio wrote: |
spiralcity wrote: |
I love Ziess glass, as do many others. Unfortunatley I only own one Ziess lens the (Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar 50mm F2.8 M42 Zebra) I love this lens. I only shoot film and the images are excellent.
Thanks for posting the pics. I plan on adding the D90 to my collection soon and I was curious how the lens may perform. |
Spiral, you will not be able to use this lens on your D90 - at least not without an optical adapter, which I don't advice to use, especially on this type of lens. |
Well, I do have a Nereus glass element adapter that allows infinity focusing. I was planning on trying my Zeiss and many other m42 lenses on the Nikon. |
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:55 am Post subject: Re: Nice |
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Orio wrote:
spiralcity wrote: |
Well, I do have a Nereus glass element adapter that allows infinity focusing. I was planning on trying my Zeiss and many other m42 lenses on the Nikon. |
With an optical adapter, you will not reach the original quality of the Jena lenses. I know because I have one. You'll better set investing in manual Nikkors instead. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: Re: Nice |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Orio wrote: |
spiralcity wrote: |
Well, I do have a Nereus glass element adapter that allows infinity focusing. I was planning on trying my Zeiss and many other m42 lenses on the Nikon. |
With an optical adapter, you will not reach the original quality of the Jena lenses. I know because I have one. You'll better set investing in manual Nikkors instead. |
I agree. You have three possibilities:
- Buy a D90 and go for manuel Nikkors. They are also excellent.
- Buy some old Zeiss glass and get a Canon EOS.
- Buy either cam and spend some real money the new Zeiss "Z" lenses.
Either way will be fun. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:29 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Oh, I forgot: Excellent shots, Orio! What a nice lens (and what a good eye for light!) _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Orio wrote: |
estudleon wrote: |
Your lens is fantastic. I don't see the problems at the borders that had Barata in his posts with the flekt 25. |
Mine is a "Aus Jena" lens (western export) and the quality control on them was better. |
My 20/4 is "aus jena" too. And it's very sharp at center (with borders so-so), nice pics at F/11 and 16. Aus jena "control" did it? Then, may be you're right.
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
All my "aus Jena" copies were great copies. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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spiralcity
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 1207 Location: Chicago, U.S.A
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: Nice |
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spiralcity wrote:
Orio wrote: |
spiralcity wrote: |
Well, I do have a Nereus glass element adapter that allows infinity focusing. I was planning on trying my Zeiss and many other m42 lenses on the Nikon. |
With an optical adapter, you will not reach the original quality of the Jena lenses. I know because I have one. You'll better set investing in manual Nikkors instead. |
Thanks for the info Orio.
I own plenty of Nikon lenses , so I have no worry there. I just want to test all my M42's on the D90 and see how they perform. I read on another forum the K10D perfoms very well with the screw mount adaptor, I was hoping that Nikon is up to the test. |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Orio wrote: |
All my "aus Jena" copies were great copies. |
Only in Pancolar 50/1,8 I have both (aus jena and made...). I'm waiting the pics in slides taken with the two lenses to compare. The MC of the aus Jena is much more dark, more intense. I don't beleave in the better quality of the aus jena, but if I see around me it seems . . . . .
Rino. (The young man with the old name) _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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spiralcity
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 1207 Location: Chicago, U.S.A
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:08 am Post subject: Re: Nice |
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spiralcity wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
Orio wrote: |
spiralcity wrote: |
Well, I do have a Nereus glass element adapter that allows infinity focusing. I was planning on trying my Zeiss and many other m42 lenses on the Nikon. |
With an optical adapter, you will not reach the original quality of the Jena lenses. I know because I have one. You'll better set investing in manual Nikkors instead. |
I agree. You have three possibilities:
- Buy a D90 and go for manuel Nikkors. They are also excellent.
- Buy some old Zeiss glass and get a Canon EOS.
- Buy either cam and spend some real money the new Zeiss "Z" lenses.
Either way will be fun. |
Sorry, I dont want to get off topic but I plan on purchasing my first DSLR.
Am I to understand that the XTI Rebel will handle my M42's quite well? |
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:26 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Yes, the XTI handles M42 lenses well. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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