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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:06 am Post subject: What film still can do |
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Orio wrote:
Hold on tight because I don't know if you will believe what you will see. Heck, I too have trouble believing it!
I have "rescanned" with the 5D one of the photos from my Garda tour, that I had already posted. The picture is made with the Contax G2, Planar 2/35 and Fuji Provia 100:
As you can see, the "scan" is visibly better even in the resize.
I will now show you some 100% crops from the scan. I did not sharpen them and I did not remove any noise from them. This is exactly what the camera captured with default sharpness (and default everything) and noise reduction off:
After having seen these, I first asked myself:
"and where's the grain?"
Then, I have decided a few things:
1) I will never, ever sell any of my Contax G equipment
2) As soon as I end my available stocks, I will only buy Provia slide film
3) The EOS 5D is the most amazing slide scanner that I ever saw.
I will link to this thread in the Rangefinder section also. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:12 am Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Wow that 2/35 is something else.
The G series prices are about to climb _________________ Moderator |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:15 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
The Planar 35 should better not raise anymore, because it's already rare to find
(hm perhaps I should erase these pictures!)
If in the meantime you can find the grain that I've lost, please mail it back to me _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:39 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Results are mindboggling!
(I'm going to go look at some Holga galleries to recalibrate) |
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spkennedy3000
Joined: 12 Apr 2007 Posts: 334 Location: London
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:27 am Post subject: |
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spkennedy3000 wrote:
Great results...
Orio how do you use your 5d as a scanner?
I would love to know the set up. _________________ G2 21 28 45 90
5d with flek 35mm f2.4 and zuiko 18mm f3.5, zuiko 24mm f2.8, zuiko 28mm f2.8, Canon EF 50mm f1.4, Nikon 105mm f2.5. |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
Results are mindboggling!
(I'm going to go look at some Holga galleries to recalibrate) |
_________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:39 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
spkennedy3000 wrote: |
Great results...
Orio how do you use your 5d as a scanner?
I would love to know the set up. |
I have an old Pentax bellows that I attach to the 5D using a M42 adapter (one with the FA chip, that helps a lot with setting the focus correctly). On the other end, I put an Industar-61 and, always on the same trail, another small bellows that connects the front of the Industar lens to a slide holder.
It was tricky to find the right distances, and you have to calibrate two bellows and the focus of one lens, but the good part is that once you have found the correct setting, you don't need to refocus anymore, you can just switch slides and fire away.
I shoot in RAW, because of the control you have afterwards on the contrast and exposure, this is a crucial point that makes a big difference. Usually by use of the contrast amount in the Canon DPP or Breezebrowser, I can handle all the dynamic range of the slide, much better than if I used a scanner.
I found that setting a correct dynamic range is very importantof or the quality of the reproduction, so I always expose on the right, and decontrast a little later, if necessary.
I guess that is all, I can't show a photo of the setup because I only have one digital camera now. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Orio!
Simply FANTASTIC. I never imagined these kinds of results from "camera scans".
With the G2 and Provia you will RULE! _________________
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And handled with a chain.
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Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Laurence wrote: |
Orio!
Simply FANTASTIC. I never imagined these kinds of results from "camera scans".
With the G2 and Provia you will RULE! |
Thanks Larry. I am very happy of this "evolution" (sorry Canon ) of my scanning skills, because now, the need for another FF digital body is quietly delayed. Being able to obtain this quality from film, I mean a near-to-digital grain free performance, I can use a film camera as third body, and replace my 400D with a much cheaper APS-C unit.
I will only have to build a "repro studio" to grant me impeccable scanning quality. I have already bought a Rodagon, and I will soon experiment to find the perfect backlighting solution. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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