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Lazzaros
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 Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: Cris - Flektogon 35mm 2.4 MC - Test |
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Lazzaros wrote:
10 minutes test with my brother modeling.
Single light.
All at 5.6 - 1/5 and 1/10 with ISO200
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| Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I love the first one!! What a great B&W.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Both are good one, I also vote for #1
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:56 am Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
The composition in #1 is particularly striking.
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Yep, #1 is tops!
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:17 am Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
| sichko wrote: |
| The composition in #1 is particularly striking. |
I'll think it is in good hands. Agree?  |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:08 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
| Lazzaros wrote: |
| sichko wrote: |
| The composition in #1 is particularly striking. |
I'll think it is in good hands. Agree? |
Agree!  |
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A G Photography
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:08 am Post subject: |
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A G Photography wrote:
#1 is perfect.
Actually I think #2 perspective is more pleasing and a classic but the reflexes of the light in your brother's eyes are disturbing. That little detail made the shot worse even to the casual observer.
If I would have to do that shot I'd use a large softbox so to diffuse the light more, or also a flash trough umbrella but very close to the subject.
Using lights is a pain, I know 
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:33 am Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
| A G Photography wrote: |
#1 is perfect.
Actually I think #2 perspective is more pleasing and a classic but the reflexes of the light in your brother's eyes are disturbing. That little detail made the shot worse even to the casual observer.
If I would have to do that shot I'd use a large softbox so to diffuse the light more, or also a flash trough umbrella but very close to the subject.
Using lights is a pain, I know |
If I have any kind of flash I would do that. hehe
I did this only with 2 fluorescent lamps together as a kitchen lamp. |
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A G Photography
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:43 am Post subject: |
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A G Photography wrote:
| Lazzaros wrote: |
| A G Photography wrote: |
#1 is perfect.
Actually I think #2 perspective is more pleasing and a classic but the reflexes of the light in your brother's eyes are disturbing. That little detail made the shot worse even to the casual observer.
If I would have to do that shot I'd use a large softbox so to diffuse the light more, or also a flash trough umbrella but very close to the subject.
Using lights is a pain, I know |
If I have any kind of flash I would do that. hehe
I did this only with 2 fluorescent lamps together as a kitchen lamp. |
I started with two alogen lamps used in garage shops, but now decent semipro flashes are becoming less and less expensive and with 500-600 euro you can get a useful system (with the advantage that you will still use it when Canon will realese the Canon 5d Mk XIII). Flashes are the same as lenses if you treat them with care.
Anyway returning to your actual situation you have to think at other cheap systems to diffuse lights. White foam panels for example. Point the fluorescent lamps against them and light your subject with the diffused bouncing the light. They also have the advantage of being square so you can simulate the classic softbox shape reflections.
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DSLR: Nikon d80, Olympus e410
SLR: Chinon CX, Fujica ST605n, Nikon f601, Pentacon FM, Pentax Spotmatic SPII, Praktica FX, Praktica FX2, Voigtlander VST1, Yashica FX-3, Zeiss Contaflex
RF: Altissa Altix, Zorki Ie, Kiev 4b
Medium Format: Pentacon Six TL, Zeiss Ikonta 520/2, Mockba 4, Voigtlander Bessa I, Agfa Isolette II, Agfa Isola
Large Format: Cambo SC 4x5, Rodenstock Sinaron 150/5.6, Rodenstock Rodagon 150/5.6, Schneider Kreuznach Symmar 180/5.6
Lenses
Nikkors: 28/3.5 AIS, 35/2, 50/1.8, 50/2 H, Micro 55/3.5, Micro 60/2.8, 85/1.8, 135/3.5 AI, 200/4 NAI, 18-55/3.5-5.6, 28-80/3.5-5.6, 55-200/4-5.6
CY: Distagon 28/2.8, Planar 50/1.4, Yashika 50/1.7, Sonnar 135/2.8
CZJ m42-Exakta: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Tessar 40/4.5, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Pancolar 50/2, Biotar 58/2, Biotar 75/1.5, Tessar 80/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 135/4, Triotar 135/4
CZJ P6: Flektogon 50/4, Flektogon 65/2.8, Biometar 80/2.8, Biometar 120/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer-Pentacon: Orestegon 29/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Lydith 30/3.5, Primagon 35/4.5, Helioplan 40/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Primotar 50/3.5, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Orestor 100/2.8, Trioplan 100/2.8, Helioplan 135/4.5, Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5, Primotar 180/3.5, Telemegor 180/5.5, Orestegor 200/4, Pentacon 200/4, Orestegor 300/4, Telemegor 300/4.5, Telemegor 400/5.5
Schneider-Kreuznach: Curtagon 28/4, Curtagon 35/2.8, Xenon 50/1.9, Xenar 50/2.8, Tele Xenar 135/3.5, Tele Xenar 200/4
Russians: Arsat Zodiak 30/3.5, Mir-I 37/2.8, Volna-9 50/2.8, Industar-50 50/3.5, Industar-61 50/2.8, Helios 44 58/2, Helios 44-2 58/2, Helios 44-M-4 58/2, Volna-3 80/2.8, Helios 40 85/1.5, Jupiter 9 85/2, Jupiter 11 135/4
Others: Chinon-Tomioka 55/1.4, Helios 28/2.8, Isco Iscotar 50/2.8, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Schacht Travegon 35/3.5, Schacht Travenon 135/4.5, Sekor 55/1.8, Sigma MF 28/2.8, S-Takumar, 28/3.5, S-Takumar 50/1.4, S-Takumar 55/1.8, S-Takumar 55/2, Steinheil Quinar 135/2.8, Steinheil Culminar 135/4.5, Vivitar 135/2.8, Voigtlander Ultron 50/1.8, Yashica Yashinon DX 50/1.4, Zuiko MC Auto-W 28/2.8
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Lazzaros
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Lazzaros wrote:
I'm starting doing that.
already painted one wall black and now I got more lamps.
My home made studio in my garage! |
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