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Hood
 Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 469 Location: Perth, Australia
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 Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:24 am Post subject: Microsoft ICE for stitching? |
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 Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:24 am Post subject: Microsoft ICE for stitching? |
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Hood wrote:
I had been giving stitching a go for the first time and after I posted my first try here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/the-big-stitch-and-in-camera-panorama-thread-d-t46683.html
One of the guys suggested that he uses a software stitching program to help.
So I went looking around the net and came across Microsoft ICE, it was free so I gave it a whirl.
I wrote my experiences with it here:
http://protas.metalforfishes.com/?p=372
I was just wondering if anyone else had used this software and what were their thoughts/experiences with it?
Is this a pretty standard program as far as these go or are there ones that are much better? _________________
-Josh
Currently shooting:
Digital:Sony Nex-5, Nex-5n, Pentax KX, Pentax K30 and Fuji JZ100
Film: Minolta x700, Contax 137MD, Chinon Memotron, Minolta 500si, Minolta 700si, Canon Ex-auto, Minolta 35DL weathermatic, Pentax espio 738, Minolta Himatic-G, Olympus Trip 35, Elixa Reflex-B, Pentax MZ-60
Lens Collection:Slr Magic 28/2.8, Slr Magic 35/1.7, Minolta Rokkor 45/2, Minolta Rokkor 50/1.4, Minolta W-Rokkor-sg 28/3.5, Minolta 35-70/3.5, Minolta Rokkor-PF 55/1.9, Minolta W.Rokkor 28/3.5, Monolta MD 50/2*2, Minolta 50/1.7, Minolta zealox bellows, Minolta e.Rokkor 75/4.5, Sony 18-55 3.5/5.6, Sony 16/2.8, Asahi Smc Takumar 55/1.8, Asahi Smc Takumar 50/1.5, Meyer Gerlitz Dimoplan 50/2.8,Meyer Gerlitz Orestegon 50/1.8, Tamron 35/2.8, Tamron 70-220/4, Tamron aspherical 28-200 3.8-5.6, Seimar 28/2.8, Aus Jena Tessar 50/2.8, Industar 50/3.5, Industar 26m 50/2.8, Industar 61 55/2.8, Industar 69 28/2.8, Carenar 45/2.8, Pentacon electric 50/1.8, Pentacon 30/3.5, Pentacon 29/2.8, Helios 44m 58/2, Miida 35/2.8, Miida 75-205/3.8, Cosina 28/2.8, Kenlock 135/2.8, Kenlock 35/2.8, Kenlock Mc-tor 28/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2, Vivitar 28-85 3.5-4.5 macro, Vivitar 28-80 3.5-5.6 macro, Exacta 35-70 3.5-4.8 macro, Sigma 35-70 2.8-4, Sigma 100-200 4.5, SamYong 18-28 4-4.5, Photax-Pharagon 35/2.8, Travenar 35/2.8, Travenar 50/1.8, Tokina 70-210 4-5.6, Tokina 28/2.8, Promura 200/3.5, Sirius 20-200 3.9, Soligor 200/3.5, Canon FL 50/1.8, Canon FD 35-70 3.5-4.5, Auto Focal 75-200/4.5, Zenit Zenitar 50/2,Tokina353 35-300mm(KX), Pentax 18-55(KX), Pentax 35-80(KX), Sigma 14mm F2.8(KX), Sigma 70-200mm(KX), Sigma 24-70mm(KX), Pentax 35-135 macro(KX), plus I have a few in for service right now and I'm always collecting more...
It's been a few years now, I need to sit down and update this list...it has grown considerably! haha
My Blog:
http://www.joshpereraphoto.com/
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WolverineX
 Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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WolverineX wrote:
i use it when i want to make a panorama. it's just the recently made by Microsoft (in last year or so), so it's not a standard for stitching panoramas, there were other programs from other makers before that, but most of them are not free, ICE is. I think most people will recommend you Hugin,free open source , as a standard but i find ICE more compact to install and easier to use,and it gets the job done.
Also in Photoshop , there is an option for stitching panoramas _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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Hood
 Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 469 Location: Perth, Australia
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 Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Hood wrote:
Ahh, excellent. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Do you know what the option is called in Photoshop that allows you to do this?
I would love to compare results.
My mate Max was telling me that this ICE is actually based off software developed for scanners, that was designed to make sure the lighting was right etc. _________________
-Josh
Currently shooting:
Digital:Sony Nex-5, Nex-5n, Pentax KX, Pentax K30 and Fuji JZ100
Film: Minolta x700, Contax 137MD, Chinon Memotron, Minolta 500si, Minolta 700si, Canon Ex-auto, Minolta 35DL weathermatic, Pentax espio 738, Minolta Himatic-G, Olympus Trip 35, Elixa Reflex-B, Pentax MZ-60
Lens Collection:Slr Magic 28/2.8, Slr Magic 35/1.7, Minolta Rokkor 45/2, Minolta Rokkor 50/1.4, Minolta W-Rokkor-sg 28/3.5, Minolta 35-70/3.5, Minolta Rokkor-PF 55/1.9, Minolta W.Rokkor 28/3.5, Monolta MD 50/2*2, Minolta 50/1.7, Minolta zealox bellows, Minolta e.Rokkor 75/4.5, Sony 18-55 3.5/5.6, Sony 16/2.8, Asahi Smc Takumar 55/1.8, Asahi Smc Takumar 50/1.5, Meyer Gerlitz Dimoplan 50/2.8,Meyer Gerlitz Orestegon 50/1.8, Tamron 35/2.8, Tamron 70-220/4, Tamron aspherical 28-200 3.8-5.6, Seimar 28/2.8, Aus Jena Tessar 50/2.8, Industar 50/3.5, Industar 26m 50/2.8, Industar 61 55/2.8, Industar 69 28/2.8, Carenar 45/2.8, Pentacon electric 50/1.8, Pentacon 30/3.5, Pentacon 29/2.8, Helios 44m 58/2, Miida 35/2.8, Miida 75-205/3.8, Cosina 28/2.8, Kenlock 135/2.8, Kenlock 35/2.8, Kenlock Mc-tor 28/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2, Vivitar 28-85 3.5-4.5 macro, Vivitar 28-80 3.5-5.6 macro, Exacta 35-70 3.5-4.8 macro, Sigma 35-70 2.8-4, Sigma 100-200 4.5, SamYong 18-28 4-4.5, Photax-Pharagon 35/2.8, Travenar 35/2.8, Travenar 50/1.8, Tokina 70-210 4-5.6, Tokina 28/2.8, Promura 200/3.5, Sirius 20-200 3.9, Soligor 200/3.5, Canon FL 50/1.8, Canon FD 35-70 3.5-4.5, Auto Focal 75-200/4.5, Zenit Zenitar 50/2,Tokina353 35-300mm(KX), Pentax 18-55(KX), Pentax 35-80(KX), Sigma 14mm F2.8(KX), Sigma 70-200mm(KX), Sigma 24-70mm(KX), Pentax 35-135 macro(KX), plus I have a few in for service right now and I'm always collecting more...
It's been a few years now, I need to sit down and update this list...it has grown considerably! haha
My Blog:
http://www.joshpereraphoto.com/
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WolverineX
 Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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WolverineX wrote:
| Hood wrote: |
Do you know what the option is called in Photoshop that allows you to do this?
I would love to compare results.
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http://www.digital-photography-school.com/creating-a-panorama-with-photoshop-and-photomerge
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/stitching.shtml
also you could try to do 2 or more levels panoramas (2 rows X 4 photos (or more) or 3 rows X 4 photos) _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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Hood
 Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 469 Location: Perth, Australia
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 Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Hood wrote:
Cheers, yes I have already done 4x4 grids...my latest is here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/the-big-stitch-and-in-camera-panorama-thread-d-t46683.html
it is a 33 image stitch... it is not perfect because of my inaccurate grid shooting but came out passable in the end.
I will look into the posts you have recommended. Cheers.  _________________
-Josh
Currently shooting:
Digital:Sony Nex-5, Nex-5n, Pentax KX, Pentax K30 and Fuji JZ100
Film: Minolta x700, Contax 137MD, Chinon Memotron, Minolta 500si, Minolta 700si, Canon Ex-auto, Minolta 35DL weathermatic, Pentax espio 738, Minolta Himatic-G, Olympus Trip 35, Elixa Reflex-B, Pentax MZ-60
Lens Collection:Slr Magic 28/2.8, Slr Magic 35/1.7, Minolta Rokkor 45/2, Minolta Rokkor 50/1.4, Minolta W-Rokkor-sg 28/3.5, Minolta 35-70/3.5, Minolta Rokkor-PF 55/1.9, Minolta W.Rokkor 28/3.5, Monolta MD 50/2*2, Minolta 50/1.7, Minolta zealox bellows, Minolta e.Rokkor 75/4.5, Sony 18-55 3.5/5.6, Sony 16/2.8, Asahi Smc Takumar 55/1.8, Asahi Smc Takumar 50/1.5, Meyer Gerlitz Dimoplan 50/2.8,Meyer Gerlitz Orestegon 50/1.8, Tamron 35/2.8, Tamron 70-220/4, Tamron aspherical 28-200 3.8-5.6, Seimar 28/2.8, Aus Jena Tessar 50/2.8, Industar 50/3.5, Industar 26m 50/2.8, Industar 61 55/2.8, Industar 69 28/2.8, Carenar 45/2.8, Pentacon electric 50/1.8, Pentacon 30/3.5, Pentacon 29/2.8, Helios 44m 58/2, Miida 35/2.8, Miida 75-205/3.8, Cosina 28/2.8, Kenlock 135/2.8, Kenlock 35/2.8, Kenlock Mc-tor 28/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2, Vivitar 28-85 3.5-4.5 macro, Vivitar 28-80 3.5-5.6 macro, Exacta 35-70 3.5-4.8 macro, Sigma 35-70 2.8-4, Sigma 100-200 4.5, SamYong 18-28 4-4.5, Photax-Pharagon 35/2.8, Travenar 35/2.8, Travenar 50/1.8, Tokina 70-210 4-5.6, Tokina 28/2.8, Promura 200/3.5, Sirius 20-200 3.9, Soligor 200/3.5, Canon FL 50/1.8, Canon FD 35-70 3.5-4.5, Auto Focal 75-200/4.5, Zenit Zenitar 50/2,Tokina353 35-300mm(KX), Pentax 18-55(KX), Pentax 35-80(KX), Sigma 14mm F2.8(KX), Sigma 70-200mm(KX), Sigma 24-70mm(KX), Pentax 35-135 macro(KX), plus I have a few in for service right now and I'm always collecting more...
It's been a few years now, I need to sit down and update this list...it has grown considerably! haha
My Blog:
http://www.joshpereraphoto.com/
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Lloydy
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Lloydy wrote:
I'm using ICE for pano's, both single height ones and multi height ones. The most images I've used so far has been 15 ( 3 high - 5 wide ) and I've had some good results with it.
I have experimented a bit using fairly close shot images of an ancient hedgerow, but it couldn't manage the rotational pictures. So I'm planning to try and do it by keeping parallel to the hedgerow by walking sideways.  _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
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ilguercio
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ilguercio wrote:
I'm using it since i find it quicker and easier compared to hugin.
I noticed that if you use focal lenghts longer than, say, 50 mm, the application thinks you've done a planar movement while i always do, as expected, a rotational one.
Changing between them doesn't alter the result, which is good most of the time.
I just had a couple of issues with the big panos (50 pictures) where i got some straight lines split up for no apparent reason.
Sometimes the error is marginal and hidden by the repetitive pattern or the coarse detail but it is annoying nevertheless.
Hugin, for some reason, takes much more time to render the same set of pics. |
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Lloydy
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Lloydy wrote:
This one is 30 pictures - 15 wide x 2 high, and I think it would print to about 7 meters wide. The step in the viaduct is actually there, it's not a fault with the stitch. I've studied this carefully and at 200% I can see the bricks, and I can't see one join in the stitch.
This is bigger again, 75 pictures in 3 or 4 layers. This nearly crashed my computer!
I took the pictures for both on the NEX5 with a Takumar 135 / 3.5. The log picture isn't as sharp as it could be because I couldn't get any further back without standing in the river, so I was at the closest focusing distance, hand holding the camera on a grey day in the shade so it was quite wide open, and the DoF was barely 40 cm, the log is deeper. I need to that one again with a shorter lens and some light. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
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ilguercio
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ilguercio wrote:
Wow, are you sure there's no sign of stitching?
Even on my good ones there are always a couple of them that drive me mad as hell. |
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Lloydy
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Lloydy wrote:
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Wow, are you sure there's no sign of stitching?
Even on my good ones there are always a couple of them that drive me mad as hell. |
No, I've done a few big ones now and had no problems with ICE at all. I thought the log one would have been a problem when I some single pictures that were out of focus, but close inspection shows no joins that I can see. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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buggz
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buggz wrote:
I too like MS ICE, it works great for me. |
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Lloydy
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Lloydy wrote:
The picture of the clock tower is from 5 pictures taken with a Chinon 300mm 5.6 lens on a Sony NEX5, stitched with ICE.
I have done quite a bit of PP as well to get the colours and levels better, but it wasn't bad without.
The 100% crop shows the level of detail from the IS0 800 shots. To print at 100% would give an image 2.2 meters high at that resolution.
The clock tower is on the top of the old Coalbrookdale Ironworks building where Abraham Darby was the first to commercially smelt and cast iron and kickstarted the Industrial Revolution. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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