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Mal1905
Joined: 30 Oct 2008 Posts: 1705 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Mal1905 wrote:
Univer wrote: |
Hi,
OK, here goes - following up, as promised, with some of the details of the 55/1.8 Auto-Tak issues. This is the "condensed" version, but it may still be tiresomely over-detailed... |
Not over-detailed at all Jon - in fact it now means that I for one will be more careful about mounting these 'troublesome' lenses on specific bodies. It is interesting to note that Pentax actually listened to and acted upon the reports provided to them - something some of today's suppliers should consider doing!
And, thanks for putting together this impressive documentation of your experiences _________________
Canon EOS 5D / EOS 40D
Carl Zeiss Jena: Flektogon 2.8/20, 2.4/35, 2.8/35, Pancolar 2/50, MC 1.8/50, MC 1.8/80, Triotar 4/135, Tessar 2.8/50, S 4/135 1Q, S 3.5/135, Sonnar 3.5/135 MC, 2.8/180, Biotar 2/5,8cm, 2/58, 1.5/75
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 2/28 T*, 1.4/35 T*, Ultron 1.8/50, Tessar 2.8/50, Planar 1.4/50 T* MM, 1.7/50 T* MM, 1.4/85 T* AEG, Sonnar 2.8/135 T*
Asahi Optical Co.: Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 2.8/120, 2.5/135 I & II, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4/300, 5.6/400, 4/45-125, 4.5/85-210, Super-Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4.5/70-150, Fish-Eye-Takumar 4/17, Macro-Takumar 4/50, Super-Macro Takumar 4/50, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-Takumar 4/50, 4/100, Bellows-Takumar 4/100, Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 3.5/50, 2.4/58, 3.5/100, Asahi-Kogaku Tele-Takumar 3.5/135, Auto-Takumar 2.3/35, 3.5/35, 1.8/55, 1.8/55 (Zebra), 2/55, 2.2/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, Takumar 4/35, 2.2/55, 2/58, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 3.5/200, 5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 5.6/200, 6.3/300, SMC Takumar 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, SMC-M 1.4/50, 1.7/50, 2/50
Tomioka: Tominon 2/5cm, Auto-Chinon 3.5/21, 1.4/55, Auto-Yashinon DS-M 1.2/55 |
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Univer
Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 282
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Univer wrote:
Hi,
Thanks very much.
Just a note that I have edited the post above to correct a typo or two - errors that actually altered the sense of the content.
Cheers,
Jon |
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djmike
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 930 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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djmike wrote:
Univer wrote: |
Hi,
Thanks very much.
Just a note that I have edited the post above to correct a typo or two - errors that actually altered the sense of the content.
Cheers,
Jon
M42 Takumars:Super-Takumar 17/f4; S-M-C Takumar 17/f4; Fish-Eye Takumar 18/f11; S-M-C Takumar 20/4.5; S-M-C Takumar 24/3.5; Super-Takumar 28/3.5 (version II); S-M-C Takumar 28/3.5; Super-Takumar 35/2; S-M-C Takumar 35/2; S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5; Takumar 35/4; Auto-Takumar 35/3.5; Auto-Takumar 35/2.3; Super-Takumar 50/1.4 (8 element); S-M-C Takumar 50/1.4; SMC Takumar 50/1.4; Takumar 50/2.2; Macro-Takumar 50/4; S-M-C Macro-Takumar 50/4; Auto-Takumar 55/1.8; S-M-C Takumar 55/1.8; Super-Takumar 55/2; S-M-C Takumar 55/2; SMC Takumar 55/2; Auto-Takumar 55/2; Auto-Takumar 55/2.2; Takumar 83/1.9; Super-Takumar 85/1.9; S-M-C Takumar 85/1.8; S-M-C Macro-Takumar 100/4; Bellows-Takumar 100/4; S-M-C Takumar 105/2.8; S-M-C Takumar 120/2.8; S-M-C Takumar 135/3.5; Takumar 135/3.5; Takumar 135/3.5(1-yr black model); S-M-C Takumar 135/2.5 (version II); Super-Takumar 135/2.5; S-M-C Takumar 150/4; S-M-C Takumar 200/4; Takumar 200/3.5; Tele-Takumar 200/5.6; Super-Takumar 300/4; Tele-Takumar 300/6.3; S-M-C Takumar 400/5.6; S-M-C Takumar 500/4.5; S-M-C Takumar 45~125/4.5; S-M-C Takumar 85~210/4.5
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Loooooooooooong list of Takumar. _________________
DSLR: Canon 400D
SLR: Nikon FM2 + Canon A-1 + Canon AE1-P + Praktica MTL-5B + Pentax Spotmatic F + Fujica ST801 + Voigtlander Bassematic + Voigtlander Vito + Rollei 35S + Rolleiflex SL35 ME + Canon QL17 GIII + Olympus Pen EE-3
Lenses
M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
Canon: Canon FD + 28/2.8 + 50/1.8 + Canon 35-105 Macro Zoom
Other: Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8
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ramiller500
Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 124 Location: Indianapolis, IN, USA
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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ramiller500 wrote:
Through the many changes, was there ever a change to the M42 55mm/1.8 optical design other than improved coatings?
I've seen info on the web implying that that the Super Takumar and later M42 versions of the 55mm/1.8 and 2.0 had thorium oxide in some of the glass, but not enough to cause a yellowing effect. I'd like to know when such glass was introduced into the 55mm/1.8 design. _________________ Sincerely,
Bob Miller |
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Blue
Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 304
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Blue wrote:
fish4570 wrote: |
you guys sure are focused on this lens collection thing. |
Actually, some of us are focusing on the working lens collection thing! _________________ Pentax: K, H2, H3, S3, SV (late & early), SV black, Spot F, K2 chrome, K2 black, ME F, SuperProgram, 6x7, Auto 110, Asahiflex IIB late
Pentax "modern": MZ-3, *istD, K200d, K20d
Mamiya: C3 TLR, NC1000
Canon: EOS 10s, AE-1
Chinon: CP-7m
IKON: Contax D, Praktiflex FX & Victar 50mm f2.9
Contessa-Nettel Piccolette - 7.5 cm Tessar & Compur shutter
Rangefinders: Argus C4 and Ricoh Five-One-Nine |
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Blue
Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 304
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Blue wrote:
Mal1905 wrote: |
kuuan wrote: |
wow..11 versions!
this will be interesting
the almost identical serial number of your Auto Taks, and this version not being documented, suggest that there were very few made.
The coincidence thus could be that you both have the same version at all, less the nearness of the serial number?? |
Counted them again - actually only 10 (2 identical but with interesting serial numbers ) - still need the original Takumar 1.8/55, Auto-Takumar 1.8/55 preset (in all-black finish), and their neighbour, the Auto-Takumar 1.9/55. |
I came across a Super Tak 55mm f1.8 a few weeks ago that is set up like an S- M-C Tak on its mounting base. I need to make some images of it. _________________ Pentax: K, H2, H3, S3, SV (late & early), SV black, Spot F, K2 chrome, K2 black, ME F, SuperProgram, 6x7, Auto 110, Asahiflex IIB late
Pentax "modern": MZ-3, *istD, K200d, K20d
Mamiya: C3 TLR, NC1000
Canon: EOS 10s, AE-1
Chinon: CP-7m
IKON: Contax D, Praktiflex FX & Victar 50mm f2.9
Contessa-Nettel Piccolette - 7.5 cm Tessar & Compur shutter
Rangefinders: Argus C4 and Ricoh Five-One-Nine |
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Blue
Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 304
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Blue wrote:
womble wrote: |
I would be interested as I have recently purchased a Pentax H2 and am looking for an appropriate standard lens for it. I'd rather not buy one with "glitches"
Thanks, Kris. |
Any of the auto-taks and preset lenses should work o.k. with the H2. The H2 actually pre-dates the H3v and H1a (SV & S1a) including the early versions. _________________ Pentax: K, H2, H3, S3, SV (late & early), SV black, Spot F, K2 chrome, K2 black, ME F, SuperProgram, 6x7, Auto 110, Asahiflex IIB late
Pentax "modern": MZ-3, *istD, K200d, K20d
Mamiya: C3 TLR, NC1000
Canon: EOS 10s, AE-1
Chinon: CP-7m
IKON: Contax D, Praktiflex FX & Victar 50mm f2.9
Contessa-Nettel Piccolette - 7.5 cm Tessar & Compur shutter
Rangefinders: Argus C4 and Ricoh Five-One-Nine |
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Mal1905
Joined: 30 Oct 2008 Posts: 1705 Location: Dublin, Ireland
Expire: 2011-11-18
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Mal1905 wrote:
Blue wrote: |
I came across a Super Tak 55mm f1.8 a few weeks ago that is set up like an S- M-C Tak on its mounting base. I need to make some images of it. |
This is known as the 1.8/55 Model II - it has the light meter coupling pins, but not the multi-coating. The 2/55 is also available as a "Model II". _________________
Canon EOS 5D / EOS 40D
Carl Zeiss Jena: Flektogon 2.8/20, 2.4/35, 2.8/35, Pancolar 2/50, MC 1.8/50, MC 1.8/80, Triotar 4/135, Tessar 2.8/50, S 4/135 1Q, S 3.5/135, Sonnar 3.5/135 MC, 2.8/180, Biotar 2/5,8cm, 2/58, 1.5/75
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 2/28 T*, 1.4/35 T*, Ultron 1.8/50, Tessar 2.8/50, Planar 1.4/50 T* MM, 1.7/50 T* MM, 1.4/85 T* AEG, Sonnar 2.8/135 T*
Asahi Optical Co.: Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 2.8/120, 2.5/135 I & II, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4/300, 5.6/400, 4/45-125, 4.5/85-210, Super-Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4.5/70-150, Fish-Eye-Takumar 4/17, Macro-Takumar 4/50, Super-Macro Takumar 4/50, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-Takumar 4/50, 4/100, Bellows-Takumar 4/100, Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 3.5/50, 2.4/58, 3.5/100, Asahi-Kogaku Tele-Takumar 3.5/135, Auto-Takumar 2.3/35, 3.5/35, 1.8/55, 1.8/55 (Zebra), 2/55, 2.2/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, Takumar 4/35, 2.2/55, 2/58, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 3.5/200, 5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 5.6/200, 6.3/300, SMC Takumar 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, SMC-M 1.4/50, 1.7/50, 2/50
Tomioka: Tominon 2/5cm, Auto-Chinon 3.5/21, 1.4/55, Auto-Yashinon DS-M 1.2/55 |
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Blue
Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 304
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Blue wrote:
Mal1905 wrote: |
Blue wrote: |
I came across a Super Tak 55mm f1.8 a few weeks ago that is set up like an S- M-C Tak on its mounting base. I need to make some images of it. |
This is known as the 1.8/55 Model II - it has the light meter coupling pins, but not the multi-coating. The 2/55 is also available as a "Model II". |
Thanks for the info. I had never encountered this variation before. Is it in Oosten's book? I can't afford that book at $450 USD. _________________ Pentax: K, H2, H3, S3, SV (late & early), SV black, Spot F, K2 chrome, K2 black, ME F, SuperProgram, 6x7, Auto 110, Asahiflex IIB late
Pentax "modern": MZ-3, *istD, K200d, K20d
Mamiya: C3 TLR, NC1000
Canon: EOS 10s, AE-1
Chinon: CP-7m
IKON: Contax D, Praktiflex FX & Victar 50mm f2.9
Contessa-Nettel Piccolette - 7.5 cm Tessar & Compur shutter
Rangefinders: Argus C4 and Ricoh Five-One-Nine |
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arzitek
Joined: 30 Jul 2009 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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arzitek wrote:
Mal1905 wrote: |
Blue wrote: |
I came across a Super Tak 55mm f1.8 a few weeks ago that is set up like an S- M-C Tak on its mounting base. I need to make some images of it. |
This is known as the 1.8/55 Model II - it has the light meter coupling pins, but not the multi-coating. The 2/55 is also available as a "Model II". |
Was there ever a version of the Super-Multi-Coated 1.8 55mm WITHOUT the meter coupling pins? Does it then have the SMC coatings? Is there some other place on the net with information about all these versions?
Luc |
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