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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:24 am Post subject: Three 135mm lenses compared |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I decided to test three of my many 135mm lenses as I'm selling off all but the best. All images exactly as they came out of my camera (NEX-3).
Lens A:
f2.8:
f4:
f5.6:
f8:
f11:
f16:
f22:
f2.8:
f4:
f5.6
f8:
f11:
f16:
f22:
f2.8
f4:
f5.6
f8:
f11:
f16:
f22:
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:49 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Lens B:
f2.8:
f4:
f5.6
f8:
f11:
f16:
f22:
f2.8
f4:
f5.6
f8:
f11:
f16:
f22:
f2.8
f4:
f5.6:
f8:
f11:
f16:
f22:
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:26 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Lens C:
f4:
f5.6:
f8:
f11:
f16:
f22:
f4:
f5.6
f8:
f11:
f16:
f22:
f4:
f5.6
f8:
f11:
f16:
f22:
_________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Pancolart
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Big work. But which are they? Otherwise i think you could easily skip all shots above F11. _________________ ---------------------------------
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Okay, I'll tell you what three lenses they are but not which is which, see if people can guess.
Pentacon preset M42
Auto-Exaktar (Samyang) M42
Jupiter-11A M42 _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Pancolart
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
I think you already put them in correct order . _________________ ---------------------------------
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Keep the lenses and sell the NEX _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Pancolart wrote: |
I think you already put them in correct order . |
Correct.
I think the Pentacon is the best of the 3 although the J11A and Samyang are not bad either, the J11A is pretty sharp as you would expect from a Sonnar. The Samyang is pretty good for a cheapo lens. I am keeping the Pentacon for sure, might sell the other two. I have a dozen more 135s as well, can't keep em all!
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Keep the lenses and sell the NEX |
Never! I love my NEX, just a shame it's so plasticky and fragile. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7788 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
To my eyes, which I freely admit aren't a great judge of lenses, I like the Jupiter. The Samyang doesn't seem to have anything 'extra' over an average lens. The Jupiter is slow, but in it's good zone it shines. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:26 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Yes, I like the Jupiter too, looks great to my eyes and pretty sharp even wide open.
I agree about the Samyang, it's nothing special but it does it's job competently with good sharpness.
It's pretty hard to decide what 135s to keep and which to sell, I have loads more of them and there are no obvious candidates for disposal (aside from that damn awful Vivitar 2.3/135 that is). _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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eddieitman
Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 1246 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:51 am Post subject: |
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eddieitman wrote:
Ii tried processing those images and for me its 3,1,2 but 3 has better microcontrast giving better 3d when processed correctly. _________________ My web site www.digital-darkroom.weebly.com
Life is like a camera. Focus on what's important, capture the good times, develop from the negatives and if things don't work out, just take another shot. |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:39 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheers for the feedback Eddie, the J11A really surprises me how good it is, I think I'll keep it.
It's so hard to whittle down my 135s as I have quite a few really good ones - Three different Konicas, a Steinheil, three different Pentacons, a Zeiss, the J11a, a Topcon RE and a few more....
I have sold the Vivitar 2.3/135 as it was pretty crap compared to the others and a very nice early M39 J11 is also off to a good home due to having had a conversion to an unusual mount and needing restoring to M39 so thats two down at least...
Worst of it is I rarely used anything longer than 50mm.... _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:58 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I processed three of the J11A shots and to my eyes they look pretty good.
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eddieitman
Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 1246 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:36 am Post subject: |
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eddieitman wrote:
Ahh thats much better, as i said the Jupiter is a stunning little lens, and for what it fetches it's hardly worth getting rid of it for such a high quality lens, use it on extension bellows and its also amazing.
I took a whole series on the Pickering war festival with mine and pretty much every one was outstanding with great detail, makes a fab portrait lens in my eyes.
I find that a good F4 lens is better than a poor F2.8 lens and i dont need the speed as mostly where i am shooting i can use it at that speed.
And notice how this lens is so much better now that you can focus it correctly.
As i recall you discarded it as junk on the Canon _________________ My web site www.digital-darkroom.weebly.com
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martinsmith99
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:24 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Much better. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7788 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Wow......what a difference a bit of processing makes. That IS a good lens. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Aye, all I did was Auto Tone in Photoshop and then some sharpening.
That 10D I had was incapable of producing a sharp image so all my results from it are to be ignored, hence I have to reassess all my lenses on a decent camera. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Lloydy
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I've got Photoshop, version 7 I think, but I hardly use it, for what I do I use Elements 6, which is now so old it's free on the internet.
I very rarely bother messing with pictures that need a lot of saving, but I have no problem with a bit of minor adjustment, so I always use as my first try the 'Auto' colour correction, contrast and levels in Elements, and generally I find it difficult to beat them.
I also use the adjustments in Faststone, they are quick and easy and do a great job, and as I use Faststone as my preferred viewer it's simple to do minor adjustments.
I think it's something that we have to do on some lenses, with my two favourites - the Pentacon 30 I turn down the reds, and the Schacht 100, I boost all the colours. Then I see the sharpness. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I find with most lenses some correction is needed, even the best I have such as the Hexanon 3.5/28 I have to play around a little, it doesn't need much contrast adjustment of colour adjustment, just fine tweaks. Auto Tone in Photoshop tends to work great for most shots, it's mostly my HDR shots I have to play around with to get colours and contrast just right, but I have developed a 'secret formula' for my HDR work that I'm not going to reveal all the details of as it took me a long time to work it out and I want to keep it as my own unique 'look'. It's very time consuming to process HDR pictures the way I do, especially the panoramas made from many shots stitched.
The thing that annoys me is that damn piece of crap 10D held me back so much, as soon as I got a NEX my work improved by leaps and bounds overnight. Maybe my 10D was faulty in some way but it was incapable of making a sharp shot and I tried a lot of lenses with it, definitely the camera at fault. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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