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vilva
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 Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:51 pm Post subject: The rear lens group of Heliar 105/4.5 as a portrait lens |
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vilva wrote:
A Portrait Exercise
(Self as model but not intended to be a self-portrait, just an exercise in style)
Taken with the rear lens group of an uncoated 1928 Voigtländer Heliar 105/4.5 (FL drops to something like less than 60 mm) on EOS5D, no lens shade, lit by a 135 cm long strip of 96 LEDs running back to front on one side 15 cm above head, about 1/4 of the LEDs behind face level, camera hand-held, no cropping, slight sharpening, slight texturing and contrast adjustment.
The rear group seems to be quite good as a soft-focus portrait lens and would probably be even better on a crop body, but my hands weren't long enough for a full face shot with my 350D.
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kds315* wrote:
Quite interesting experiment Veijo! I always liked Heliars!
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| Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Looks a paint, (Mona Lisa) excellent really!
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56 DIN wrote:
i like the picture very much, it is genious and i fully agree with Attila that it looks like a famous painting ( but not the self portrait of Leonardo as Mona Lisa), cause you´re not smiling, you´re focussing with your eyes and thinking what comes out
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vilva wrote:
Thanks everyone 
I've always liked the Heliar, even the bokeh sometimes, and this trivial, reversible modification makes it even more valuable for me, both as a portrait lens and for a certain type of landscape photos where a moderate amount of field curvature will create a nostalgic atmosphere without any extra post-processing. I hope I'll soon get an opportunity to take some test shots.
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
Fabulous image, I like it alot. Very artistic  |
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yinyangbt wrote:
Congratulations ...good picture , seems like Rembrandt
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mo wrote:
Simply stunning,I like where you are going with this...painting with a camera?
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IAZA wrote:
very nice Veijo! Thanks for share.
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vilva wrote:
Thanks GrahamNR17, Teo, IAZA
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vilva wrote:
| mo wrote: |
| Simply stunning,I like where you are going with this...painting with a camera? |
Thanks
This isn't a straight photo, it has been slightly textured afterwards. Now that I'm not so much testing lenses anymore, I'm experimenting with post-processing and texturing.
Rather small adjustments can change a photo like this a lot. The white balance of the posted version isn't natural, it's much too warm, but I had a certain kind of pictorial effect in mind. Correcting the WB somewhat will result in a picture with a darker and colder mood, like this:
Sometimes I like one version, sometimes the other one better.
Veijo
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| Looks a paint, (Mona Lisa) excellent really! |
Exactly !
I thought immediately Leonardo da Vinci !
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mo wrote:
Thank you for the explanation...great creativity.
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