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Retro
Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 173 Location: Krautland
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: The imagon-effect |
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Retro wrote:
I´m not only fond of looking for old M42-lenses but also for good old photo- literature.
Recently I found a nice book ("Stapf, Helmut. 1955. Fotografische Praxis. Fachbuchverlag Leipzig") which contends detailled charts about old cameras, lens constructions and very interesting old techniques. One of them is the mention of the Imagon-lens. Usually industry was looking for optically good adjusted and sharp lenses (like the Tessar). But there was also a trend and need for special lenses with a dreamy and soft-focus effect. So they developed this imagon-lens in combination with three perforated discs.
One can no longer get such a lens, but it is possible to reproduce the imagon-effect perfectly with photoshop:
http://eye.de/tip_imagon.shtml
http://www.cameraeccentric.com/html/info.html
I would give the advice to create a personal action of this technique.
Significant is the following statement of the author of the first mentioned web-side (Klaus Mangold):
"...Von einfacher Weichzeichnung unterscheidet sich dieses Bild ganz erheblich durch die fast vollständig erhaltene Schärfe in den dunklen Bildteilen..."
(freely translated > "There is a dramatic difference between a simple soft-focus-effect and the nearly totally maintained sharpness in the darker areas in pictures with the imagon-effect") _________________ Cameras: Sigma SA300 - Sigma SD9 - Sigma SD10
Lenses: Sigma 15-30/3.5-4.5 - Vivitar 28/2.5 - Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 - Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2.0 (black) - Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar 135/4 - Sigma 28-70/2.8 - Sigma 70-300/4.0-5.6 - Vivitar 28-210/3.5-5.6
Equipment: Lightmeter Gossen Lunasix - Tripod Linhof/Schiansky Kugelkopf-Panorama-Stativ, Modell 161 - Rightangle Viewfinder Minolta VN - B+W Greygradientfilter BWG 501 - B+W Circular-Pol-Filter 52E - Photo Bag Crumpler Ben's Pizza XL
Portfolio: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/434323/default.aspx?_c02_vws=1/pc/pc?mypics=434323
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dakoo
Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Posts: 603
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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dakoo wrote:
i was about to put up a thread for this..
Are there no actions which actually replicate the chacterstics of older lenses in PS.
Not that they can ever produce the image.. But maybe colors, contrast etc ... |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
Expire: 2013-12-03
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: The imagon-effect |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Retro wrote: |
I´m not only fond of looking for old M42-lenses but also for good old photo- literature. |
Oh yes, that is really fun! I also like to read through old magazines and stuff. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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vilva
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 785 Location: Porvoo/Borgå, Finland
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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vilva wrote:
Well, I get nicely along without PS, that's too sterile for me, no post-processing here:
see http://galactinus.net/vilva/retro/eos350d_meniscus.html and the linked pages, it's more fun that way. Besides, if you have got some extra money, you can always get an Imagon, it is quite common even on eBay, much easier to find than e.g. a Jupiter-6 or a Cooke triplet.
Veijo _________________ Mainly Schneider-Kreuznach Radionar (1938), VPK Meniscus Achromat (1915), TTH Cooke Anastigmat (1917), TTH Cooke Aviar (1937), Goerz Dopp-Anastigmat III Dagor (1912), Voigländer Heliar (1928) or Aldis Uno Series III (1903 design) mounted on EOS 5D or EOS 350D |
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Retro
Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 173 Location: Krautland
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Retro wrote:
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Besides, if you have got some extra money |
Oh, yeah...
Click here to see on Ebay
"Buy it now price" = GBP 943.00 (EUR 1.195,43 !) _________________ Cameras: Sigma SA300 - Sigma SD9 - Sigma SD10
Lenses: Sigma 15-30/3.5-4.5 - Vivitar 28/2.5 - Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 - Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2.0 (black) - Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar 135/4 - Sigma 28-70/2.8 - Sigma 70-300/4.0-5.6 - Vivitar 28-210/3.5-5.6
Equipment: Lightmeter Gossen Lunasix - Tripod Linhof/Schiansky Kugelkopf-Panorama-Stativ, Modell 161 - Rightangle Viewfinder Minolta VN - B+W Greygradientfilter BWG 501 - B+W Circular-Pol-Filter 52E - Photo Bag Crumpler Ben's Pizza XL
Portfolio: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/434323/default.aspx?_c02_vws=1/pc/pc?mypics=434323 |
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bob955i
Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 2495
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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bob955i wrote:
@ Retro:
That's a Photo Arsenal/Leica price....
Meanwhile, back in the real world....
Click here to see on Ebay |
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lulalake
Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 1191 Location: Near Austin Texas
Expire: 2011-11-18
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: The imagon-effect |
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lulalake wrote:
Thanks so much for that link. Fantastic!
Jules |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16625 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
He has rare stuff sometimes but his prices are "a bit" through the roof. I had to send some stuff back I bought or it turned out that it was not in the condition they advertised it. So it would be good to have them check that again before sending an item. Their prices are without VAT btw.
Cheers, _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
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Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Retro
Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 173 Location: Krautland
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Retro wrote:
@lulalake:
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Thanks so much for that link. Fantastic! |
> _________________ Cameras: Sigma SA300 - Sigma SD9 - Sigma SD10
Lenses: Sigma 15-30/3.5-4.5 - Vivitar 28/2.5 - Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 - Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2.0 (black) - Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar 135/4 - Sigma 28-70/2.8 - Sigma 70-300/4.0-5.6 - Vivitar 28-210/3.5-5.6
Equipment: Lightmeter Gossen Lunasix - Tripod Linhof/Schiansky Kugelkopf-Panorama-Stativ, Modell 161 - Rightangle Viewfinder Minolta VN - B+W Greygradientfilter BWG 501 - B+W Circular-Pol-Filter 52E - Photo Bag Crumpler Ben's Pizza XL
Portfolio: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/434323/default.aspx?_c02_vws=1/pc/pc?mypics=434323 |
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