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just wondering if anyone knows the story behind this one?
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Soligor C/D was the attempt from soligor to go high end
The first C/D batch was 28/2 + 35/2 + 135/2 + 200/2.8 + 100mm macro + 80/200 3.5
The second c/d batch included 35/105 3.5 + 100/300 5.0 + 70/220 3.5
It did compete with Vivitar S1 line
Nearly all lenses were Tokina made (including yours) |
TY PBFACTS
It has all white lettering at the front around the glass, except a small yellow "P".
Serial 17401531
Any way to get an idea when it was made?
How does it rate compared to the other fast 135s?
Here it is handheld iso 200 1/320 at f/2 DOF quite tight (very overcast flat light) no PP Sony APS-C
Sharpness--same settings no PP
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I'm thinking of trying some brenizer shots with it.
some copies marked f/1.8 according to one thread
ty sirs
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Any way to get an idea when it was made?
How does it rate compared to the other fast 135s?
some copies marked f/1.8 according to one thread
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1- circa 1975
2- Good lens (not fantastic) but low constrat at full ap (some are much better) .. i will say that yours is over usual quality for that lens ) good number !
3- 1.8 lens is completely different
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uhoh7
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uhoh7 wrote:
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Any way to get an idea when it was made?
How does it rate compared to the other fast 135s?
some copies marked f/1.8 according to one thread
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1- circa 1975
2- Good lens (not fantastic) but low constrat at full ap (some are much better) .. i will say that yours is over usual quality for that lens ) good number !
3- 1.8 lens is completely different |
REALLY apreciate the response.
When you say "good number", is that judging by the images or the serial number itself?
I'm thinking you are looking at the crop.
We have snow everywhere now, but I will be interested to see contrast on bright spring day, WO.
all the best,
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
If Soligor continued using the same serial number format for the CD lenses, then as already pointed out, this is a Tokina lens made in 1974 (hence the 174xxxx serial).
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:12 pm Post subject: Re: Soligor 135mm f2.8 'Chrome ears' |
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Mal1905 wrote:
I too have this lens, mine is M42, serial # is 278664, with no 'M'.
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Soligor 135mm f2.8 'Chrome ears'
M39 - T2 mount, shown with M42 adaptor.
Serial number - M 163925
The 'M' is a mystery, but the '1' might make it a Tokina made in 1963 |
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| If Soligor continued using the same serial number format for the CD lenses, then as already pointed out, this is a Tokina lens made in 1974 (hence the 174xxxx serial). |
TY sir.
I have to weigh the monster. I have nothing that approaches it's weight, even my Vivitar series1 105mm f/2.5 macro--it feels 50% heavier.
Carrying it around the house I feel like frodo with the "ring" hehe. It exudes mystic.
MD mount BTW
Here is a shot compared to FD 135mm f/2 (which i suspect might be better)
credit to Michiel Schierbeek
Here is current auction of FD 135 f/2
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170570902163&item=170570902163
Found one that sold off a forum, near mint for 245 last spring.
It'll be interesting to see what the current one brings.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:09 pm Post subject: Soligor product catalog |
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Minolfan wrote:
A different listing of C/D lenses
From a Soligor product catalogue, enclosed in the box of a Soligor C/D Dualfocal lens 85 & 135mm 4.0. The lens has P/K mount. That lens is not in de listing. No date to be found on the advert. |
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I recently came across a Soligor catalog. No date on it but from about 1982 judging by the receipts and other stuff found with it. Illustrated and described:
24-45mm f3.5-4.5 C/D Zoom + Macro two ring.
28-80mm f3.5-4.5 C/D Zoom + Macro "One Touch"
35-70mm f2.5-3.5 C/D Zoom + Macro two ring
35-140mm f3.5 G/S Zoom + Macro two ring
70-150mm f3.8 C/D "One Touch"
70-222mm f3.5 C/D Zoom + Macro "One Touch"
75-250mm f4.5 C/D Zoom + Macro "One Touch"
80-200mm f4.5 C/D Zoom + Macro "One Touch"
85-205mm f3.8 C/D Zoom + Macro "One Touch"
85-300mm f5 C/D Zoom + Macro two ring
24mm f2.5 G/S
28mm f2.5 G/S
28mm f2.8 C/D
100mm f2 C/D
135mm f2.5 G/S
135mm f2.8 C/D
200mm f2.8 G/S
300mm f4.5 G/S
400mm f5.6 G/S
500mm f8 C/D mirror telephoto
2X Multi-Purpose 4 element. Remove optics to use as extension tube.
2X 4 element tele-converter
2X C/D7 7 element tele-converter
2X C/D7 Mirror For use with 500mm mirror tele. T2 mount.
3X tele-converter
1.5X tele-converter
I'll try to scan and post.
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Olivier wrote:
I found this :
It's on this french site, which contains a lot of ald cameras' manuals.
http://www.collection-appareils.fr/general/html/liste_notices.php
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Just seen an old Soligor mirror on the bay, never seen one like this before 
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fish4570 wrote:
i've a cd 28-55 macro 1:3 in Nikon mount, thanks to Bill. it is a heavy dude; easy to handhold on my FE2.
some samples:
handheld, 40-45mm:
handheld, 55mm:
handheld, about 40mm:
handheld, 40-45mm:
handheld, 28mm:
handheld, 28mm:
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| Just seen an old Soligor mirror on the bay, never seen one like this before |
Cosmetic variation on very common Yashica/Tomioka 500mm mirror. Often seen as Lentar. Found in many other guises, including Spiratone and Hanimex. Early to mid 70s vintage.
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kuuan wrote:
I have three Soligor lenses
a f2.8/25mm in M42
f3.5/180mm in M42
I like the Tele lens a lot, the wide angel less so but I should test it out again.
The third is a Soligor CD Dualfocal f3.5/28mm + f3.8/35mm with Minolta MD mount, if interested I'll take a photo of it
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:23 am Post subject: Soligor 200mm 4.5 |
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kp0c wrote:
Hey ! I got my first soligar lens not long ago. It has not been listed yet here on the post, so here it is.
For some reason, the picture would show when I preview my post, but not when I submit it? Anyone knows why ?
My serial number is 283681 and it is m42 mount. A very nice preset lens that I enjoy using so far. Could someone tell me who is the manufacturer of this lens ? Anyone else has it ?
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:31 am Post subject: Re: Soligor 200mm 4.5 |
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Hey ! I got my first soligar lens not long ago. It has not been listed yet here on the post, so here it is.
For some reason, the picture would show when I preview my post, but not when I submit it? Anyone knows why ?
My serial number is 283681 and it is m42 mount. A very nice preset lens that I enjoy using so far. Could someone tell me who is the manufacturer of this lens ? Anyone else has it ?
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Welcome kp0c. (Image links are disabled for first time posts)
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kp0c wrote:
Thank you visualopsins , now that I think about it, it makes complete sens.
Maybe I should have introduced myself. I am a Pentax DSLR shooters. Just started last year but already got hooked for old manual primes. I have tried dozen of lens in the past few months, including some gems. I pretty much check local classified every time, 2 to 3 times a day waiting for the old camera gear. |
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Olivier wrote:
Hello KP0C.
I think your Soligor was made by Tokina.
Cheers
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Lloydy wrote:
welcome kp0c, I'm sure you'll find this a friendly place.
Try that lens out, if you need an adaptor get one. I have a feeling that old Soligor might surprise you.
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| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| Just seen an old Soligor mirror on the bay, never seen one like this before |
Cosmetic variation on very common Yashica/Tomioka 500mm mirror. Often seen as Lentar. Found in many other guises, including Spiratone and Hanimex. Early to mid 70s vintage. |
Well, I missed it and the new buyer then listed it straight back up again! So I have it here now It's incredibly huge A touch shorter than the Pentacon 300/4.
Lens has a 172xxx serial so I presume it is actually an early 1970s Tokina lens! The lens has three filters built in...one normal and two ND filters to stop the lens down, well slow it at least. The lens is marked as f8, f11 and f16 however.
What a beast! Photos to follow...
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Here's an interesting one, which is probably the same as loads of other 100-200/5.6 lenses branded with all sorts of names!! Looks like it was Kino made...
The lens is push pull and clicks as you zoom. It has a multi blade preset diaphragm and produces swirly bokeh 
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precertvideo wrote:
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Well, I missed it and the new buyer then listed it straight back up again! So I have it here now It's incredibly huge A touch shorter than the Pentacon 300/4.
Lens has a 172xxx serial so I presume it is actually an early 1970s Tokina lens! The lens has three filters built in...one normal and two ND filters to stop the lens down, well slow it at least. The lens is marked as f8, f11 and f16 however.
What a beast! Photos to follow... |
I have had one of those for a while, mine serial #571183 but exactly the same as the one pictured. I've searched but never found any info on it. The finish matches the smaller contemporary lenses, so might be Tokina?
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
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Well, I missed it and the new buyer then listed it straight back up again! So I have it here now It's incredibly huge A touch shorter than the Pentacon 300/4.
Lens has a 172xxx serial so I presume it is actually an early 1970s Tokina lens! The lens has three filters built in...one normal and two ND filters to stop the lens down, well slow it at least. The lens is marked as f8, f11 and f16 however.
What a beast! Photos to follow... |
I have had one of those for a while, mine serial #571183 but exactly the same as the one pictured. I've searched but never found any info on it. The finish matches the smaller contemporary lenses, so might be Tokina?
Jonathan |
Hi, what is your lens branded as?
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
OK, this is interesting...I've just found some images of a 300mm Kominar lens:
Looks a bit different to my 350mm which I presumed was a Komine lens...on mine there is no triangle on the aperture scale for example 
Here's my lens again:
Where's Luis gone?! 
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I just love seeing lenses with the manufacturers name on them! Thanks for posting that.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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precertvideo wrote:
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| Hi, what is your lens branded as? |
Soligor
Approx. lens design observed through disassembly
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