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Langstrum
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| Is your Helios 44M-4 multicoated? Is it made by KMZ? |
Its serial number is 91049552 so it's produced in 1991 and likely to be KMZ product and it's multicoated. It looks very common, like the normal ones that sold with Zenit ET bodies.
A shot I didn't recently, wide open, with some color editing and sharpen boosting (not much) in Photoshop. This lens is as good as the Zenitar ME1, I really like it.
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MF Lenses: Peleng MC 8/3.5, 17/2.8 Samyang 14/T3.1, 35/T1.5, TS 24/3.5 ED, 85/T1.5, Polar 85/1.4 Auto Revuenon 28/2.8; MC 50/1.4 Vega11U 50/2.8 Carl Zeiss Tessar 50/2.8 (exakta mount) Auto Chinon 50/1.9 Zenitar ME1 50/1.7 Sears Auto Sears 55/1.4; Sears 135/2.8 Auto Yashinon DX 50/1.4; Tomioka 50/1.2 SMC Pentax 50/1.7; 50/1.4 Canon FD 50/1.4 S.S.C; 55/1.2 S.S.C; FD 50/1.2 L; FD 85/1.2 L; 85/1.2 S.S.C Aspherical; FD 80-200/4 L 300/2.8 S.S.C Fluorite FD 300/2.8 L FD 200/1.8 LCosina-S 50/1.2 Helios Helios 44 Chrome f/22, 44-2, 44-3, 44M-4, 44M-7 (58/2), Helios-40 85/1.5 Jupiter Jupiter-9 85/2; Jupiter-37A 135/3.5; Jupiter-21M 200/4 Nikon Ai 105/2.5 Tairs-3S 300/4.5
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dimitrygo
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:26 am Post subject: |
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dimitrygo wrote:
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| Is your Helios 44M-4 multicoated? Is it made by KMZ? |
Its serial number is 91049552 so it's produced in 1991 and likely to be KMZ product and it's multicoated. |
You can tell this looking on the logo. If the logo is a prism like on your Helios 44 it is KMZ. If the logo is like on your Helios 44M-7 it is Valday. |
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Langstrum
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Langstrum wrote:
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| Langstrum wrote: |
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| Is your Helios 44M-4 multicoated? Is it made by KMZ? |
Its serial number is 91049552 so it's produced in 1991 and likely to be KMZ product and it's multicoated. |
You can tell this looking on the logo. If the logo is a prism like on your Helios 44 it is KMZ. If the logo is like on your Helios 44M-7 it is Valday. |
Yes, sure, I didn't have the lens with me to tell exactly at that time, so I based on the serial number. Now I confirm it by the logo, it's KMZ made. In my test, the 44M-7 is Valdai and 44 (M39) is also KMZ made.
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Camera: Sony A7 mark III, A6300
AF Lenses:
Canon EF 50/1.8; EF 200/2.8 L, EF 200/1.8 L, EF 300/4 L Sony E mount SEL 50/1.8 OSS, SEL 16/2.8 Fuji X mount XF 35/1.4 R
MF Lenses: Peleng MC 8/3.5, 17/2.8 Samyang 14/T3.1, 35/T1.5, TS 24/3.5 ED, 85/T1.5, Polar 85/1.4 Auto Revuenon 28/2.8; MC 50/1.4 Vega11U 50/2.8 Carl Zeiss Tessar 50/2.8 (exakta mount) Auto Chinon 50/1.9 Zenitar ME1 50/1.7 Sears Auto Sears 55/1.4; Sears 135/2.8 Auto Yashinon DX 50/1.4; Tomioka 50/1.2 SMC Pentax 50/1.7; 50/1.4 Canon FD 50/1.4 S.S.C; 55/1.2 S.S.C; FD 50/1.2 L; FD 85/1.2 L; 85/1.2 S.S.C Aspherical; FD 80-200/4 L 300/2.8 S.S.C Fluorite FD 300/2.8 L FD 200/1.8 LCosina-S 50/1.2 Helios Helios 44 Chrome f/22, 44-2, 44-3, 44M-4, 44M-7 (58/2), Helios-40 85/1.5 Jupiter Jupiter-9 85/2; Jupiter-37A 135/3.5; Jupiter-21M 200/4 Nikon Ai 105/2.5 Tairs-3S 300/4.5
Voigtlander 15/4.5 Aspherical; Ultron 35/1.7
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dimitrygo
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:05 am Post subject: |
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dimitrygo wrote:
| Langstrum wrote: |
| dimitrygo wrote: |
| Langstrum wrote: |
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| Is your Helios 44M-4 multicoated? Is it made by KMZ? |
Its serial number is 91049552 so it's produced in 1991 and likely to be KMZ product and it's multicoated. |
You can tell this looking on the logo. If the logo is a prism like on your Helios 44 it is KMZ. If the logo is like on your Helios 44M-7 it is Valday. |
Yes, sure, I didn't have the lens with me to tell exactly at that time, so I based on the serial number. Now I confirm it by the logo, it's KMZ made. In my test, the 44M-7 is Valdai and 44 (M39) is also KMZ made. |
Unfortunately it is quite common problem with Helios 44M-7 lenses - some dishonest sellers just swap the name plates between 44M-4 and 44M-7 lenses and sell 44M-4 as 44M-7 which commands higher prices. |
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Gerald
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Gerald wrote:
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| Unfortunately it is quite common problem with Helios 44M-7 lenses - some dishonest sellers just swap the name plates between 44M-4 and 44M-7 lenses and sell 44M-4 as 44M-7 which commands higher prices. |
That practice is called "to sell pig in a poke". 
Sadly, there are well respected lens makers that sell many pigs in a poke. 
The idioms pig in a poke and sell a pup (or buy a pup) refer to a confidence trick originating in the Late Middle Ages, when meat was scarce, but cats and dogs (puppies) were not. The idiom pig in a poke can also simply refer to someone buying a low-quality pig in a bag because he or she did not carefully check what was in the bag.
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