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lumens pixel
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 Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 2:12 pm Post subject: Testing Tamron 46A 70-210 3,8/4,0 |
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lumens pixel wrote:
This is a fine lens. Difficult to find a good copy. The build quality is inferior to the metal/glass earlier adaptalls.The macro mode is excellent: mfd = 0,9m.
 Tulipe by lumens pixel, sur Flickr
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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Doc Sharptail
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| Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 6:32 am Post subject: |
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Doc Sharptail wrote:
Nice shot.
I've been trying with the soon to open apple blossoms here, and the wind certainly isn't cooperating.
I have the "parent" 103-A here, and from what I've read, the optical constructions are quite similar.
If that is the case, you have a very good lens in your hands, not only for macro, but for clear shots at a considerable distance.
-D.S.
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50 f2 H nikkor, 50 f 1.4 AI-s, 135 f3.5 Q,
50 f2 K nikkor 2x, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 35-105 3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 200mm f4 Micro A/I, partial list.
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lumens pixel
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| Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 8:58 am Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
| Doc Sharptail wrote: |
Nice shot.
I've been trying with the soon to open apple blossoms here, and the wind certainly isn't cooperating.
I have the "parent" 103-A here, and from what I've read, the optical constructions are quite similar.
If that is the case, you have a very good lens in your hands, not only for macro, but for clear shots at a considerable distance.
-D.S. |
According to Modern Photography measures on Adaptall-2 website the 46A has better sharpness figures than 103A. But as a general comment the author prefers the 103A and on Pentax forums both lenses are well appreciated. Tell us your remarks about the 103A. True the quality and the haptics are certainly better on 103A than on 46A and if performance is similar I would look for one.
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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D1N0
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| Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
Found a Diagram for the 46A. It is largely the same as the 103A without an element in the rear.
By itself:
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Doc Sharptail
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| Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Doc Sharptail wrote:
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| Tell us your remarks about the 103A. True the quality and the haptics are certainly better on 103A than on 46A and if performance is similar I would look for one. |
103-A in macro at 210mm and wide open.
Cropped image is un-manipulated here.
There is no adapter used here. It is nikon f mount lens to nikon camera - the f/l is as originally made.
Will have to search a bit for a distance shot.
-D.S.
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D-810, F2, FTN.
35mm f2 O.C. nikkor
50 f2 H nikkor, 50 f 1.4 AI-s, 135 f3.5 Q,
50 f2 K nikkor 2x, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 35-105 3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 200mm f4 Micro A/I, partial list.
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marcusBMG
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| Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
The most notable distinction between these lenses for me is the rendering: 03A is very "cool", 103A is warm and 46A has the most true colours. All 3 can fringe, 46A is probably the best in that regard. Interestingly, 46A has some the highest ratings for resolution on adaptall-2.com. I found little difference in sharpness between 46A and the kiron 70-210mm f4 "zoomlock", but the kiron has even better rendering than 46A.
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Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
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Doc Sharptail
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| Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Doc Sharptail wrote:
About 350m distant here with the 103-A wide open yet again.
Image is a considerable crop, and un-manipulated.
Other than some slightly low contrast, little wrong here.
-D.S.
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D-810, F2, FTN.
35mm f2 O.C. nikkor
50 f2 H nikkor, 50 f 1.4 AI-s, 135 f3.5 Q,
50 f2 K nikkor 2x, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 35-105 3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 200mm f4 Micro A/I, partial list.
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lumens pixel
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| Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
If these are unsharpened 100% crops it sure is a sharp lens.
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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Doc Sharptail
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2023 3:41 am Post subject: |
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Doc Sharptail wrote:
| lumens pixel wrote: |
| If these are unsharpened 100% crops it sure is a sharp lens. |
The dandelion head is at about 50%, and the flags image is roughly 85%- fine performance for a 3rd party lens.
Both are at ISO 400.
I just recently picked up another (quite a bit older) Tamron zoom in beater condition.
I am rapidly becoming a fan of this maker.
-D.S.
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D-810, F2, FTN.
35mm f2 O.C. nikkor
50 f2 H nikkor, 50 f 1.4 AI-s, 135 f3.5 Q,
50 f2 K nikkor 2x, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 35-105 3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 200mm f4 Micro A/I, partial list.
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lumens pixel
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2023 11:39 am Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
46A strikes again:
 Niveaux de Pâquerettes | Daisies at different levels by lumens pixel, sur Flickr
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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Doc Sharptail
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2023 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Doc Sharptail wrote:
That is pretty nice!
-D.S.
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D-810, F2, FTN.
35mm f2 O.C. nikkor
50 f2 H nikkor, 50 f 1.4 AI-s, 135 f3.5 Q,
50 f2 K nikkor 2x, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 35-105 3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 200mm f4 Micro A/I, partial list.
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lumens pixel
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2023 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
| Doc Sharptail wrote: |
That is pretty nice!
-D.S. |
Thank you Doc!
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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