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egidio
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 Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:55 pm Post subject: testing bokeh of some 35mm lens |
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egidio wrote:
1. Flektogon 35mm : 2.8
2. Mir24H 35mm f2 (at 2.8.)
3. Mir1b 37mm f2.8
I made a tilt shift adapter out of mir1b lens because of incredible bokeh:
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CarbonR
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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CarbonR wrote:
The last one is incredible  How did you do your tilt adapter ?
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woodrim
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
If all taken from the same spot, does this suggest Flek is also 37mm? Very interesting tilt effect. I too would like to see how you accomplished it.
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themoleman342
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
Great use of the mir 1B's oof swirl. It's much harder to get with the mir than the helios. |
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egidio
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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egidio wrote:
| woodrim wrote: |
| If all taken from the same spot, does this suggest Flek is also 37mm? Very interesting tilt effect. I too would like to see how you accomplished it. |
camera wasn't directly on the same spot (zeiss was few cm closer), but as far as I can see, zeiss has a little smaller bokeh circles than other two at same distance
I'll post pictures of adapter later, I'm very busy right now.
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AhamB
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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AhamB wrote:
The MIR-24 N looks good! Good close focus too (0.24m right?).
H is the Cyrillic character for N, so the correct designation is MIR-24 N 2/35. |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Wrong thread! There is one for "crazy bokeh lenses" 
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:54 am Post subject: |
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egidio wrote:
You are right, its Мир-24Н so its N. I actually know this alphabet for a long time, but I wasn't aware.
Its a great walkaround lens, nice colors, close focus is really good, but zeiss Flektogon has the same close focus capabilities. Мир-1b has bad close focus, but since I use tilt shift adapter I can go to macro if I want
Adapter is similar to this one http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=27718&view=next , just the lens is stripped(I removed mount and focus ring system) so the real element can go deeper in a camera therefore achieve infiniti while shifting. Yes I did hit mirror several times:)
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:03 am Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
| egidio wrote: |
You are right, its Мир-24Н so its N.
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I wouldn't worry about it. The manufacturer sometimes mixed the two alphabets ....
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:09 am Post subject: |
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aoleg wrote:
Out of these three, I'd pick Mir-24 any day 
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:49 am Post subject: |
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djmike wrote:
You have bad copy of Flek? Or this surprises me....
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martinsmith99 wrote:
That doesn't look the same a the images that come out of my Flek, but it is the later F2.4.
Out of the 3 samples I'd have to pick #3. Russian lenses never cease to amaze me.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:44 am Post subject: |
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symphonic wrote:
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| Out of these three, I'd pick Mir-24 any day |
For me just the opposite... I like bokeh from #3 - Mir1b the most, followed very closely by the Flek. Colors are also much better with them.
Btw. nice composition.
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AhamB wrote:
I agree that the colors on the Flek and Mir1B look better; Mir24 is very warm. I wonder how close you can get them with some PP/WB correction. |
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koji wrote:
Oh, OP has a relatively rare thing (iron kettle).
Sorry for not the bokeh impression.... 
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Joosep wrote:
I own both Mir-1 and Mir-24.
The 24 is SOOOO much better. Its really hard to explain it.
The build quality is good, minimal focus is 0,3m, so you can really use that smoooooth bokeh.
The 1 is just compact, thats all. Dont like the aperture system, the focusing ring is to close to the camera, minimal focus distance is 0,7m.
Im gonna develop some photos from the 24 soon. Then I can say more about the picture quality.
Edit:
Picture with Mir-24M from my 30D and another one.
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LucisPictor wrote:
The MIR-24 for my taste.
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vulko wrote:
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| I agree that the colors on the Flek and Mir1B look better; Mir24 is very warm. I wonder how close you can get them with some PP/WB correction. |
You can get them right, believe me as a Mir-24 fan
Bokeh is much smoother, doesn't drag that much attention as bokeh of flek and mir1. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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The 1 is just compact, thats all. Dont like the aperture system, the focusing ring is to close to the camera, minimal focus distance is 0,7m.
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There is a version of Mir-1 with minimal focus distance 0.24mm: Mir-1A.
It is pretty rare and maybe not so cheap, but amazing.
Few samples:
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Jeff Zen wrote:
Very interesting post. Thank you. |
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