visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11061 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
jjphoto wrote: |
visualopsins wrote: |
jjphoto wrote: |
I always appreciate such comparisons, so thanks very much for posting this. These kinds of comparisons are much more useful than simple example images (which are fine too). I also think it's best to shoot these kinds of comparisons without hoods, because that shows up the flaws in the lens better (IMHO).... |
I tend to agree, however, doesn't that give lenses with more recessed front elements unfair advantage? |
Maybe they are better designed, so any advantage would not be 'unfair'. It's still telling you something about the lenses performance. Lots of lenses absolutely need a lens hood whilst some are great without them. |
Agreed. And as kiddo says:
kiddo wrote: |
probably the difference on the depth of the hood for these lenses wouldn`t be that big as topcor re 58mm 1.4 wich is about 2cm only if I remember correctly |
My point is hoods prevent omnipresent stray light from entering the lens, thus improving contrast and reducing flare. A more level playing field as it were. Perhaps tests without hoods may show only coating effectiveness differences. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Doc Sharptail
Joined: 23 Nov 2020 Posts: 1216 Location: Winnipeg Canada
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Doc Sharptail wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
jjphoto wrote: |
visualopsins wrote: |
jjphoto wrote: |
I always appreciate such comparisons, so thanks very much for posting this. These kinds of comparisons are much more useful than simple example images (which are fine too). I also think it's best to shoot these kinds of comparisons without hoods, because that shows up the flaws in the lens better (IMHO).... |
I tend to agree, however, doesn't that give lenses with more recessed front elements unfair advantage? |
Maybe they are better designed, so any advantage would not be 'unfair'. It's still telling you something about the lenses performance. Lots of lenses absolutely need a lens hood whilst some are great without them. |
Agreed. And as kiddo says:
kiddo wrote: |
probably the difference on the depth of the hood for these lenses wouldn`t be that big as topcor re 58mm 1.4 wich is about 2cm only if I remember correctly |
My point is hoods prevent omnipresent stray light from entering the lens, thus improving contrast and reducing flare. A more level playing field as it were. Perhaps tests without hoods may show only coating effectiveness differences. |
I'll have to look into hoods a bit more seriously.
Practical, personal experience agrees with what is quoted above:
An in-frame light source is not required to skew the image with every 50 1.4 I've tried.
Another thing I've noticed is these semi-fast lenses seem to be a bit on the susceptible side to dirty, or dusty UV/skylight filters.
I still have to get around to some serious checking with an L-37 C filter one of these days...
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D-810, F2, FTN.
35mm f2 O.C. nikkor
50 f2 H nikkor, 50 f 1.4 AI-s, 135 f3.5 Q,
50 f2 K nikkor 2x, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 35-105 3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 200mm f4 Micro A/I, partial list.
"Ain't no half-way" -S.R.V.
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