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Tesselator
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 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:47 am Post subject: Tessar 2,8/45 |
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Tesselator wrote:
Hi everyone! Uber-n00b here, Greets!
Look what I found rolling around in one of my camera boxes:
Anyone know anything about it? When I try to search for prices, reviews, or information all I get are thousands of hits to this very site and all to people's signature-lines. Hehe 
I could find out that it's 4 elements in 3 groups, min FD = 1m, it was designed in 1950 ??, and the manufacturer ID is "ZO" whatever/whoever that is.
Can anyone comment on the attributes (IQ) of this lens?
What was it originally designed for?
What are some of it's best uses? Portraits? Landscapes? Other?
What's the common name of this mount?
Is there and adaptor for that mount on Nikon? Canon? Sony? Oly? Panny GH1?
What does it typically sell for on e-bay? Although I don't wish to sell it - I love little MF treats like this! 
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Tesselator
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
Umm, my images don't show up?
 
EDIT: NM, there they are. \(a.a)/ |
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poilu
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Tessar 2,3/45 |
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poilu wrote:
welcome Tesselator
it is a contax that can be adapted to Canon and other dslr
it is a very good lens, great sharpness, color, flare resistance and small size
it sell for about 120 euros on thebay
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Tesselator
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
Awesome! That was quick! Thanks!
Do you know of any reviews on-line? Maybe with sample images and MTF plots, etc? I seriously couldn't find much on it. Is it rare or something? Also the sites I did find just had it listed in a massive table with other zeiss's - the date given for it was "1950 ~" as if it was still in production. Is it?
Sorry for asking so many questions all at once.
And thanks for the welcome! Nice! |
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Tesselator
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:48 am Post subject: Tessar 2,8/45 Spec Sheet |
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Tesselator wrote:
I found the spec. sheet! YAY!
http://www.zeiss.de/C12567A8003B8B6F/EmbedTitelIntern/Tessar2.8_45mm_e/$File/Tessar2.8_45mm_e.pdf
The spec sheet says 0.6 meters is the min. FD. Hmm... |
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:52 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I wish I would find something like that rolling around in my bag! 
Welcome and congratulations to your great lens!
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Tesselator
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
Thanks Lucus!
But I dunno how "great it is" These guys for example don't seem to like it much.
http://www.nadir.it/ob-fot/CONTAX_EYES.htm
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45/2.8 Tessar - Agreeable mini-lens with non exceptional performance as usually thought, even if it is in any case high. Visible vignetting at full aperture. Despite its higher price, it is definitely less valid than the Planar 50/1.7 that, besides all, is 1 stop faster. Only useful for those who, combining it to an old 139 or 159 body or to the Contax Aria, wants a reflex that nearly fits in the pocket (but better at this point a compact like the Yashica T5 with the Tessar really breast pocket!). |
I still reading and searching. And all I have right now to test it myself is either a Minolta A2 shooting straight-up thru it or a film camera.  It passes the finger test very nicely so maybe those guys are just full of it? <shrug>
Thanks for the welcome!
Edit:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1171809&postcount=45
Yeah, I kinda think the link I quoted from above it's from someone who knows very little about this lens. The samples here are fantastic IMHO.
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Kabraxis
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Kabraxis wrote:
Hi there,
in February test this lens for my blog. You will found the review in German language with many pictures here:
http://kabraxis.de/?p=1300
greetings from Switzerland
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Tesselator
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
Thanks! Those images are a good reference!
Now I just have to learn the German language and I'll know what they're saying too! |
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Kabraxis
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Kabraxis wrote:
use the Google-translator, the results are "o.k.",
but short:
-not the sharpest lens, but still sharp
-typical Zeiss colors with a touch blue
-very very small and lightweight
-only for use 1.6/1.5 crop-dslr (hit the mirror of 1DMKxx and 5DMKxx) |
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MF-addicted wrote:
Was really satisfied with mine.
Sold it as I have too many lenses around 50mm.
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Arkku wrote:
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-only for use 1.6/1.5 crop-dslr (hit the mirror of 1DMKxx and 5DMKxx) |
Sony and Nikon full frames should be fine, though. |
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Tesselator
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
| Arkku wrote: |
| Kabraxis wrote: |
-only for use 1.6/1.5 crop-dslr (hit the mirror of 1DMKxx and 5DMKxx) |
Sony and Nikon full frames should be fine, though. |
Why are you guys saying like this? Is there distortion or CA in the outer regions of the image circle or something?
My finger test didn't show any but if it's slight it would be easy to miss. |
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Arkku
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Why are you guys saying like this? |
As Kabraxis wrote above, the lens may physically hit the mirror on full frame Canon cameras (the same problem exists with many other lenses and FF Canons). It's no optical fault, just a mechanical one due to adapting the lens to a system it wasn't designed for.
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trifox wrote:
Hi Tesselator!
Welcome to the board..
here's my sample gallery with Tessar 2.8/45 - I have posted this in other thread ...
It;s a great performer .... with Zeiss vital colours..
every second picture is a crop of previous one ..
tf
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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 4:13 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
| Trifox wrote: |
| here's my sample gallery with Tessar 2.8/45 - I have posted this in other thread ... |
I remember this impressive thread, it speak for itself
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Kram wrote:
tf, nice samples. Are these wide open?
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trifox wrote:
I think that the first picture could be at f/2.8 - I am not sure ..
but the lens is sharp straight from 2.8..
tf
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Tesselator
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| Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 1:10 am Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
| Arkku wrote: |
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Why are you guys saying like this? |
As Kabraxis wrote above, the lens may physically hit the mirror on full frame Canon cameras (the same problem exists with many other lenses and FF Canons). It's no optical fault, just a mechanical one due to adapting the lens to a system it wasn't designed for. |
Ah, Thanks! How did I miss that text?? "(hit the mirror of 1DMKxx and 5DMKxx)" Weird, time for new glasses me thinks.  |
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Tesselator
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Tesselator wrote:
Thanks and - wow those are awesome! And unless you have the best sharpening software on the planet I can't see it. I mean there's like no traces of sharpening in those images at all. And yet they are sharp as a tac - as if several levels of sharpening had been applied.
Just simply awesome!
That does beg the question of how they were processed tho. May I know? |
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Tesselator
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| Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 1:35 am Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
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I think that the first picture could be at f/2.8 - I am not sure ..
but the lens is sharp straight from 2.8..
tf |
Yeah, the samples I've seen indicate the same thing. But 2.8 seems to be it's only soft-spot. And even at that, the 2.8 samples I've seen aren't too shabby at all!. |
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| Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 9:30 am Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
Hi Tesselator ..
My camera settings have sharpness at ZERO level - I do sharpening in LightRoom but gently, of course ..
Tessar 2.8/45 is very sharp by itself with great colours -- images with this lens always look good and clear.
It works 'very good' with extension tubes - especially 13 mm.
more samples here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/contaxtessar-2-8-45-and-ext-tubes-t25439,highlight,tessar.html
tf
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