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no-X
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 Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: TAIR 11A 135/2.8 - first (Xmas) samples |
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no-X wrote:
f/8
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The ligting star is pre-war garnish, my mum loves them - every year she is desperate to make me hang them on the tree 
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sichko
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
They have a definite charm.
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cilinderman
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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cilinderman wrote:
Cool Bokeh! The TAIR 33A seems to be very sharp! How is it wide open?
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no-X
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
I didn't try. I have 2 135mm lenses (Jupiter 37AM and this TAIR 11A), I'm gonna to buy 2-3 more and than I'll prepare a test (quick-test  ).
I didn't compare them directly, both of them have excellent bokeh - I'd say Jupiter has soft bokeh and TAIR painted-like...
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
I'm looking for one but I only find it outside of UE. :S
I'm affraid to buy it because customs... |
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no-X
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
One copy is in local auction. I'll buy it if the price won't be too high. I can offer the lens to you, if its the condition will be good. But this lens is 2nd most expensive M42 135mm lens in local market (only Sonnar is more expensive)... So if you are interested, please let me know which price is acceptable for you.
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
I could be interested but I need to know the final price including shipping to Portugal.
I think that 20 blades would be cool to do some portraits with creamy bokeh.
I have one friend interested too so I'll need one for sure
If you could get some pictures of it I'll be glad.
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no-X
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
The auction ends after 7 days. If I win, I'll let you know.
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
Ok. I'll appreciate.
How much was yours if you could tell? |
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no-X
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
I don't know. I bought it together with 2 other lenses and one SLR (inheritance, people mostly refuse to sold items separately). Mine is in good condition, but it needed repair - somebody repaired it and assembled it in a wrong way (preset ring didn't work properly), so it cost me additional money.
The last one in local auction was slightly over £55.
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
That would be a very good price to me.
Please try to get that one you told me Hope it is in good condition. |
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KhanX
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KhanX wrote:
I wait for this lens from Ukraine. The bokeh is great.
Thanks for sharing pictures.
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huhging
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| Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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huhging wrote:
May I share mine from Tair 11-A?
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Great one , especially second picture!
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cilinderman
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cilinderman wrote:
Bokeh is like a painting  . I have to buy this lens XD!
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Nice samples! Welcome on our forum!
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I had all Jupiter, Tamron , Tair I think Tair-11 is one of the best 135mm under 200 USD
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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| I had all Jupiter, Tamron , Tair I think Tair-11 is one of the best 135mm under 200 USD |
some people tell me that Tair11 "white" M39 is better that "black" M42 version. but I can't compare because haven't "white" version. may be in future. |
Better is always relative, different that for sure I have it also in past.
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/russian_lens/tair/
You can see both here.
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martinsmith99
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I'm a bit late coming in here, but I prefer the Jupiter images, even if the bokeh isn't quite as good. Colours & sharpness seem much better.
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no-X
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
I consider these two as the best M42 135mm tele lenses I have ever tried. You can't go wrong with any of them
Jupiter is sharper at f/3.5 and f/4, but its color rendition isn't constant amongst all samples: Different Jupiters have different coating colors - classic version has purple coating, version with CCCP quality mark has deep violet coating, MC version is purple and green... So different version can have different colors...
Anyway, Jupiter is highly underrated - if we consider price of TAIR, Sonnar, Trioplan (or other lenses which are in demand), Jupiter is much cheaper, but in many ways, it is at least as good...
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trifox wrote:
jupiter is definitely better .. IMO
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