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Super-telephoto lenses on a budget?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManualFocus-G wrote:
The FD L lenses are also great but will need a lot of work to make them function on a Canon Eos DSLR.


The longest FD lenses are quite easy to adapt to Canon EOS cameras compared to smaller ones. (I mean the white ones)
Here is some information about it:
http://www.canonrumors.com/tech-articles/fd-fl-lenses-on-your-ef-body/


PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed Mikas Adapter would be a good idea. There is a uncertainty wheter the optical quality of the lens change with the internal focussing modification or not. Ed Mika´s test show no difference.
It looks like I have the change to make such a comparrison, I would like to test this in close distance, probably with extension tubes.

For the FD 800L is no IF modification necessary.

I have converted the FD 300/2.8L 400/2.8L and 500/4.5L (see http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/Photo-DIY.html) in Pre-Ed-Mika-adapter times.
The FD 400/2.8L I got for conversion had some metal abrasion in the optical system, I suppose from focussing mechanism wear. This could have a influence on optical quality. This lens seems less contrasty than the Fd 500/4.5L which I had for conversion too. No direct comparrison. Normal Fd 300/2.8L are very good too - mine has a fungus damaged element.
But I read somewhere that others have the same result - FD 300 and 500 are better than 400mm. But this lens is still good - but ptobably not stellar.
The FD 800/5.6 SSC (not L) I got has very strong purple fringing on high contrast edges like tree branches. This lens did not reach infinity - even with my "0mm" thick DIY adapter (and filter inside) - I suppose this is sample variation.


PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is all really good info, particularly around the adaptation of FD lenses.

Going back however, to the OP was looking for lenses better than the EF L lenses, for less money. Is it commonly accepted that the FD L lenses are better than the more modern EF L lenses? And can they still be found cheap as it looks to me like they are pretty expensive still?


PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I understand the Canon EF lens quality is good enough for the TO - but they cost too much.

Rough price used estimations (not great condition ones on the FD):
FD 500/4.5L and FD 400/2.8L one could get for ~1200 Euro each on Ebay. Sometimes cheaper. FD 300/2.8L ~ 650-800 Euro.
FD 800/5.6L ~ 1400 Euro - non "L" SSC version much cheaper.
EF 300/4L IS 1000 Euro, EF 400/5.6L ~1100 Euro.

Erwin Puts (Leica specialist) measured MTF data with a Zeiss MTF device of some few FD and comparable EF lenses.
For example the old FD 85mm f/1.2 aspherical and the new EF 85/1.2L II - his comment:
"A surprise again: more than 30 years of design separate the old and the new versions and no optical advancement, at least not visible."
BTW: I posted exactly this citation today the second time, better buy FD lenses fast Smile

Some astrophotographers say the old FD L tele-lenses are better than the EF lenses - but don´t ask for citation here.


PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is some testshots from yesterday with the FD 800 5.6L.
Weather / lightning conditions where good as there was sunshine Smile
Click for bigger versions

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