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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:59 pm Post subject: Super Takumar 105/2.8 |
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luisalegria wrote:
A lens I picked up, as usual cheaply, in order mainly to fill out my Takumar collection - this certainly isn't a rare or little known lens.
Its rather worn, but in every other respect it is in perfect working order. This lens was someones old reliable, and it looks it.
I now have, of the Super and Super-multi-coated Takumars, the 28/3.5, 35/3.5, 55/1.8, 50/1.4, 100/2.8, 135/3.5, 200/4, and 300/4, plus the 70-150/4.5(a very strange beast). I like the cheaper Takumars! In truth I could shoot with nothing but these and not be ill-equipped.
The Super Takumar 105/2.8 is a conventional short tele of the period, and a typical Takumar, with the same compact size and build standard you should expect. Its a five element-four group formula that seems to be something like a modified Tessar, with an additional front element. Its supposed to be very similar to the Super Takumar 85/1.8 (early version), the 85/1.9 and the 120/2.8, none of which I have, so I cant say whether there is a family resemblance otherwise.
In use it is very Takumar, with smooth, excellent damping of focus, very long focus throw for precision, very compact, 49mm filter, A/M switch so its easy to use on digital, etc. Its a small enough thing to fit in a jacket pocket with a small hood, not bigger than the tiny 135/3.5 but more useful. The rather deep hood for the 135/3.5 is perfectly suitable on APS-C, the native hood for the 105 is fairly hard to get. Of course, pretty much any 49mm hood will do.
Performance - well, this lens has a mixed reputation, and I can more or less confirm it. It is a bit soft wide open, moreso at infinity. It is much better close up, where I cant see more than a hint of it pixel peeping (16mp APS-C sensor on my Pentax K30). If you are going to shoot at f/2.8, do it close. One stop down and its as sharp as anything. I couldnt get it to flare. Close focus is what you would expect of a prime of its era, a bit under 4ft-1.3 meters or so. Bokeh seems very nice, I actually got some bokeh going. Out of focus highlights are more donut than disks. Colors are very Pentax, very saturated, though I cant say how much is the camera here.
All in all, yes I certainly could use this daily. Its more compact than many of the alternatives anyway, and is excellent for flowers and seagulls.
The bird -
crop -
_________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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RAART
Joined: 10 Oct 2012 Posts: 497 Location: Oakville, ON, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:09 am Post subject: |
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RAART wrote:
I thought as well to add the same lens to my collection of Takumars... I heard that is unique in rendering but still did not had it in my hands to check it out. Your results are promising but your comment about being not sharp at infinity let me thinking if it is your copy or in general this lens is like this. Hope someone else will elaborate here.
P.S. I really like Takumar lenses and their performance on modern DSLR's. I am using K-3 with very good results. _________________
Camera: Pentax K3
FOR SALE:
Do you have Pentax-A or F or FA primes and like to trade?
Here is the list what I have to trade/sale:
Primes: - Kiron 28mm f2 (C/Y); Vivitar 28mm f2.5 Auto (FD); Minolta MD 50mm f2 (incl. adapter to m4/3); Miranda Auto 35mm f2.8 EC (incl. adapter to m4/3); Miranda Auto 135mm f2.8 EC (incl. adapter to m4/3);
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16625 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:56 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Congrats Luis!! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
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Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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tromboads
Joined: 29 May 2012 Posts: 1655 Location: Melbourne AU
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:23 am Post subject: |
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tromboads wrote:
I think as always, it comes back to what you consider sharp.
I love using my 105 as a short Tele on my k5. I confess I can't remember what its like at infinity at f2.8.
I'll shoot the moon later tonight and you can have a look. |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3702 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Worn lenses should deserve more respect and higher collectors status. _________________ ---------------------------------
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 5999 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:27 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Pancolart wrote: |
Worn lenses should deserve more respect and higher collectors status. |
+1 on that
OH |
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tromboads
Joined: 29 May 2012 Posts: 1655 Location: Melbourne AU
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:43 am Post subject: |
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tromboads wrote:
Yes absolutely!
You know I think it was someone here that said whilst hunting for 2nd hand lenses, they sought out the tatty worn ones as it often meant they were good, and hence used |
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1616 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:01 am Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
Looks good. I was on the verge of buying it once but decided to hunt for a 6 element 105mm Nikkor instead. |
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tromboads
Joined: 29 May 2012 Posts: 1655 Location: Melbourne AU
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:55 am Post subject: |
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tromboads wrote:
errrrr so I snapped a picture of the moon wide open.. yaa don't want to see it. |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 5999 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
tromboads wrote: |
errrrr so I snapped a picture of the moon wide open.. yaa don't want to see it. |
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:24 am Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Very nice luis.. great colours _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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RAART
Joined: 10 Oct 2012 Posts: 497 Location: Oakville, ON, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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RAART wrote:
tromboads wrote: |
errrrr so I snapped a picture of the moon wide open.. yaa don't want to see it. |
c'mon cannot be so bad... _________________
Camera: Pentax K3
FOR SALE:
Do you have Pentax-A or F or FA primes and like to trade?
Here is the list what I have to trade/sale:
Primes: - Kiron 28mm f2 (C/Y); Vivitar 28mm f2.5 Auto (FD); Minolta MD 50mm f2 (incl. adapter to m4/3); Miranda Auto 35mm f2.8 EC (incl. adapter to m4/3); Miranda Auto 135mm f2.8 EC (incl. adapter to m4/3);
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Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
I've never tried early versions, but S-M-C is excellent and right now is an absolute steal, compared to similar lenses from other major brands.
blotafton wrote: |
6 element 105mm Nikkor instead. |
I thought they were all 5 element, no? |
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1616 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
Gardener wrote: |
I've never tried early versions, but S-M-C is excellent and right now is an absolute steal, compared to similar lenses from other major brands.
blotafton wrote: |
6 element 105mm Nikkor instead. |
I thought they were all 5 element, no? |
Ais version is supposed to have 6 elements and have different rendering than older 5 element versions. Both have very good reputation. |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2964 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
I agree on the worn lens category, I really like the all metal era as you never wear out aluminum knurls. My all time favorite are the pentax s-m-c as they have the good coating but still have the all metal barrels. I do very much like the 105 2.8 as well. Plenty sharp for most types of photos. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10957 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Oldhand wrote: |
tromboads wrote: |
errrrr so I snapped a picture of the moon wide open.. yaa don't want to see it. |
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Likely only overexposed? _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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tromboads
Joined: 29 May 2012 Posts: 1655 Location: Melbourne AU
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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tromboads wrote:
Nope, although I did take a few of those. 105 @ f2.8 focused at infinity, yeah ain't much detail going on. I was impressed that some of the major structures where visible however. And you will have to excuse the tree, was unable to get a clearer shot before it went back under the clouds.
100% crop from a K5 jpg.
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10957 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
For me that is impressive result! Any stopped down shots to compare sharpness? _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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tromboads
Joined: 29 May 2012 Posts: 1655 Location: Melbourne AU
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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tromboads wrote:
Didn't bother sorry, and perhaps it's not that bad. .. I've been spoiled by looking at craters as captured by the Tair 3 however.
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:46 am Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
Very nice shots! Congrats on your acquisition. I finally got a 105mm this past Winter and was pleasantly surprised how well it renders.
Also trying to build up my Takumar collection. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
Sony ILCE-6000, SELP1650, SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL5018. Sigma 19/30/60mm f2.8 EX DN Art.
Rokinon 8mm f3.5 Fish-Eye, 14mm f2.8 IF ED UMC. Samyang 12mm f2.8 ED AS NCS Fish-Eye.
And a bunch of Manual-Focus Lenses
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:57 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Nice lens and results, I never had this Takumar either... _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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