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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:08 am Post subject: Sollie s/n coding mystery |
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guardian wrote:
Here is what I could find on Sollie coding:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/soligor_mf/discuss/72157625238376083/
No help to me as my lens s/n has the "M" prefix. Does anyone know what that signifies? |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:26 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
This has been disgusted at great length several times, try doing a google search with the addition of site:mflenses.com
Personally, I don't understand the obsession with trying to work out who made what old cheapo third party lenes. There were upwards of 20 lens makers in Japan and they seem to have shared suppliers for barrel parts so guessing by appearance is exactly that - guesswork. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7788 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
My 135 / 2.8 chrome ears preset lens is almost certainly a Tokina, and that has an M prefix.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/92596521@N07/8667015028/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/92596521@N07/8667015074/in/photostream
I found these pic's on flickr the other day, and except for the chrome eared stop down ring the Tokina is identical to the Soligor. Not that it solves the mystery of the M prefix. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
The chrome ears are a Soligor/Miranda feature and lenses made by Sun, Tokina and others all appear with them. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7788 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Yes, I've got a bunch of them, some Tokina and the rest are Sun or some other manufacturer. Very variable in performance, but the 135 Tokina is very good - but heavy.
Obviously Soligor had the buying power to specify a style of lens from different manufacturers. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10973 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
'M" is still a mystery. More info: http://forum.mflenses.com/soligor-12-8-f28mm-21and-versions-t30866,start,180.html
I like the '17nn' tokinas.
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
This has been disgusted at great length several times |
Your Freudian slip is showing. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Personally, I don't understand the obsession with trying to work out who made what old cheapo third party lenes. |
Because it's interesting to some of us Plus, it's nice to link the occasional gem to others with a different name...which may be available cheaper _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
Thank you so much to everyone who responded. All of your comments were helpful and are appreciated.
So many caution signs notwithstanding, I bid on the mystery lens anyway. It obviously has a severe case of fungus. This might, or might not, be something I can put right. And of course, as a mystery lens of God only knows what pedigree, it might not even be worth the effort to put it right. The cosmetic condition of the lens, though, seemed OK. And I can use the T2 X M42 adapter. Also, call me crazy, but I like T-mount lenses. And while it would be nice if this antique had even a tiny amount of coating, you simply cannot have everything.
All of that said, I bid but: not high. My insanity has limits. As things transpired, though, my meager bid was sufficient to win the lens regardless.
For anyone wanting to view this humble old "seen better days" Sollie, here is a link:
Click here to see on Ebay
If you do bother to view this auction, please ignore the seller's hyperbole. I did, I assure you. |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7788 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
That's exactly the same as mine, the serial no of mine is M163924 so yours is only 13,561 older. did they really make that many ? I guess they did if they manufactured for a few years and sold internationally. We're used to shorter production runs now as development keeps up with demand for newer and better goods.
This was one of the first MF lenses I bought to use on my K10, I paid £5 for it in a junk shop 6 or 7 years ago and I got some really good results from it, and I still drag it out to play occasionally on the NEX. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:48 am Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
That's great news! Thanks. Perhaps there will be hope for this lens after all . . . . if I can clean the fungus out of it.
I searched some more in effort to decipher the "M" prefix. No luck. |
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