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Soligor 1:2.8 f=28mm -- 21+ Versions
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Doesn't rain but it pours!
Here is another Soligor that needs classifying.
According to the list as arrived at thus far there is no Soligor lens with serial number commencing with K.
This one starts with KA

Ere 'tis:






And what about this little number.
Serial starts with H6 so ....... Komine??????
Look how far back the rear element retracts during focusing - some mirror issues waiting to happen methinks.





PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
KA should mean Kyoei Acall.
http://forum.mflenses.com/three-versions-of-kyoei-35-3-5-t58849.html


PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
calvin83 wrote:
KA should mean Kyoei Acall.
http://forum.mflenses.com/three-versions-of-kyoei-35-3-5-t58849.html


Ever seen one of these under the Soligor label?
OH


PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Possibly.
I suspect these others may be Kawakami/Kawanon, though related to Kyoei because I further suspect Kyoei somehow turned into Kawakami, based on similarity of some lenses.


PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oldhand wrote:

Serial starts with H6 so ....... Komine??????

Serials starting with H could be from different makers. Many of these lenses are made by Tokina.
Oldhand wrote:
Look how far back the rear element retracts during focusing - some mirror issues waiting to happen methinks.

It's T-mount so you need to add a width of T-mount adapter.

Last edited by dimitrygo on Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:54 am; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
A Japanese site mentioned the Kyoei Optical Co.(協栄光学) was established by the ex-employee of Sankyo Kohki(三協光機). Some of the design drawing and parts and were stolen the factory of Sankyo Kohki during the labor dispute.


PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Regarding the KA Soligor above. Strangely these letters could mean Kashimura. Found 2 of the series here: Click here to see on Ebay
and i dare posting before nice documentary photos go into oblivion.






PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Interesting, Kashimura is a Japanese distributor. Never see any lens Kashimura before.
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kashimura


PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
My 28/2.8, Nikon non-Ai mount, seems to be this one: SOLIGOR WIDE-AUTO 1:2.8 f=28mm 58Ø NO.171nnnnn-175nnnn, Tokina Fixed 0.3m 58mm, which appears to be the same that Phenix jc has. Mine also has the singularity described by Scheimpflug below:

Scheimpflug wrote:
* On my #6 (171x), 0.3m is the closest marked focus distance, but the focus ring actually turns past it. Infinity is a definite stop (and aligned), but 0.3m is not.


A couple images:

This one shows the misalignment that Scheimpflug noted




Detail of the shape of the iris:


Since the lens is non-Ai, I can't mount it on my Nikon D700 so it's useless to me. If someone is interested in buying it for a few bucks, let me know. Of note: there's some fogging on one of the elements close to the rear element.


PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:07 am    Post subject: soligor 28mm optical design or parts manual Reply with quote
Can any one provide me the Optical Design or parts manual of Soligor 28mm f2.8 wide auto or Tokina 28mm f2.8 Wide-auto??Its urgent..Thank you


PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Another version of the CD/wide auto 28mm 2.8 with 55mm filter ring, SN 2805111.

This has a Konica AR mount.

Compared to the image on the first page of this thread, the focusing ring has identical markings and knurled ring appears to be same size, design, and texture.

The markings on the aperture ring are different. It has 28mm at the front instead of at the end. At the end is EE in green. EE was used in early renditions of Konica AR lenses (early 70s or thereabouts?) but fairly quickly shifted to AE. The part with the markings is recessed and smooth all the way around.

Here are some images of the lens:





PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have just noticed a Soligor with H34XXX serial.
Not a Kawanon(?) as that is maybe H37XXX
Maybe it is simply a H3XXXX serial.
Sooooo what then ...................
Picture to come.
OH


PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oldhand wrote:
I have just noticed a Soligor with H34XXX serial.
Not a Kawanon(?) as that is maybe H37XXX
Maybe it is simply a H3XXXX serial.
Sooooo what then ...................
Picture to come.
OH


OK here are some piccies.
Not a 28mm but interesting for its serial number nonetheless.
Again - not my lens - but images borrowed from an ebay listing for reference purposes.
OH







PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:09 am    Post subject: Help me identify this Soligor? Reply with quote
Hi Everyone!
I'm glad to have found this thread while searching google for info on this lens I picked up the other day.
I'm completely unfamiliar with the lens mount, and I couldn't find any info on one exactly like it anywhere in the 15 pages (although, one of you had a picture that looked like mine!)

Soligor 28mm Auto-Wide, 58mm filter, 173xxxxx serial no.,


Any thoughts on the mount type?
All help is much appreciated!
Thanks!
-Daniel

P.S. - Sorry for the quick iphone photos of the lens.





PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Weird..my photos seem to be broken?
I tried with photobucket as well as the built in uploader.
Am I doing something wrong?
-Daniel

EDIT: Now they seem to be appearing! Not sure what was happening.


PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi Daniel, welcome to the forum. Smile

You can't post photos or links in your first post, an anti-spam measure. You'll be ok from now on.

Your lens, although branded Soligor, was manufactured by Tokina as denoted by the serial number starting with 17. On a cropped sensor camera it shouldn't be a bad performer stopped down a few stops. The mount is Canon FD.


PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: soligor 28mm optical design or parts manual Reply with quote
tezomoy wrote:
Can any one provide me the Optical Design or parts manual of Soligor 28mm f2.8 wide auto or Tokina 28mm f2.8 Wide-auto??Its urgent..Thank you


Welcome tezomoy!

There are over 21 versions, including several by Tokina. If you post a photo of the lens we might be able to help you. Wink


PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oldhand wrote:
Oldhand wrote:
I have just noticed a Soligor with H34XXX serial.
Not a Kawanon(?) as that is maybe H37XXX
Maybe it is simply a H3XXXX serial.
Sooooo what then ...................
Picture to come.
OH


OK here are some piccies.
Not a 28mm but interesting for its serial number nonetheless.
Again - not my lens - but images borrowed from an ebay listing for reference purposes.
OH







I though to myself "that's exactly the same as mine" - then I looked at it. The numbers has the H prefix, and it's not that far apart either; about 8,000. But there are a lot of differences.
The front name ring, all different. Smallest aperture f16 on my lens, f22 on the ebay listed one, and they go in opposite directions. Also the stop down ring is different. The focus distance scale is tapered on my lens, and parrallel on the ebay lens. The focus mark is different, and the engravings are different colours. The focus ring is shorter on mine, as is the plain bit between the aperture ring and the front edge of the lens.
Which proves very little I know, other than sorting out who made what for Soligor a nightmare. Small differences could easily be an evolutionary thing in the manufacturing, but why would they change something like the rotation of the aperture ring?





PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
DigiChromeEd wrote:
Hi Daniel, welcome to the forum. Smile

You can't post photos or links in your first post, an anti-spam measure. You'll be ok from now on.

Your lens, although branded Soligor, was manufactured by Tokina as denoted by the serial number starting with 17. On a cropped sensor camera it shouldn't be a bad performer stopped down a few stops. The mount is Canon FD.


Hi DigiChrome!
Thanks for the response, and sorry for my late reply.
That makes sense about the photos.

I was afraid the mount might be an FD! I've got a Canon 6D and was intending to adapt it for use with EOS mount,
but it looks like there are some problems with flange distance and infinity focus between FD and EOS.
Oh well, I only paid $15. Maybe someone on craigslist will be willing to pay that! Smile

Thanks again!
-Daniel
Portland, Oregon


PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:02 pm    Post subject: Serial No: 88****** Reply with quote
As an earlier post correctly stated, the #88.. lenses have a Contax/Yashica mount and it looks like they were made at the Tomioka facility owned by Yashica/Kyocera. I have spotted an identical lens (28mm f2.8 Macro with a 49mm ring) which appears as a Yashica MC prototype with the serial number being A00006 - a dealer in Vienna is asking £260 for this as it's unique, never having gone into production as part of the ML lens range. I don't think he'll ever sell it at that price, even though by all accounts it's a pretty good lens.


PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
H7
Preset
Closest focus is 0,45
T2 mount ?(first I've seen...)









PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can unscrew this spacer ring, and there is normal T2 beneath.


PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Looking at a few 28 2.8's on ebay right now for my a6000. Is there a general consensus on which make is optically better than others? Should I go Sun, Tokina....not sure that it makes a huge difference but if one is particularly better than the rest I'd like to get that make.

Thanks. Great resource!


PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi,
A few photos of my Soligor. I'm not sure about the manufacture.
I'm waiting for the adapter to EOS, not sure if it's worth in this version.





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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Demoncho wrote:
Hi,
A few photos of my Soligor. I'm not sure about the manufacture.
I'm waiting for the adapter to EOS, not sure if it's worth in this version.





Here you go
OH
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