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wrep
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 Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:32 pm Post subject: Shift/tilt bellow |
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wrep wrote:
Hello! 
I have read alittle about shift/tilt photography and it seems fun. So I decided to make my own shift/tilt bellow.
It looks like this:
But i cant get hold of how to use the tilt? My intention was to get increased focus-depth for ex when shooting macro shots of a ciruitboard.
I cant get it sharp when tilted.
The lens is a Canon Fd 100mm/2,8
Could you give me some hints here? Ex witch direction should I tilt and how much?
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rawhead
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| Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
Here you go. One of the most concise explanations on the topic on the web:
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/tilt-shift-lenses2.htm
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wrep
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| Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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wrep wrote:
Ok thank you! Now I have some reading to do!
Another question: What kind of lens could I use to get focus at infinty whith this kind of bellow?
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rawhead
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| Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
| wrep wrote: |
Ok thank you! Now I have some reading to do!
Another question: What kind of lens could I use to get focus at infinty whith this kind of bellow?
// Per |
Medium format & large format lenses
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jjphoto
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:33 am Post subject: |
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jjphoto wrote:
| wrep wrote: |
Ok thank you! Now I have some reading to do!
Another question: What kind of lens could I use to get focus at infinty whith this kind of bellow?
// Per |
Long(ish) enlarger or large format lenses, eg, 105mm, 150mm and longer.
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piticu
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:17 am Post subject: |
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piticu wrote:
I might be wrong, but i don't think that focal lenght has anything to do with focusing to the infinity. To get this you need to use a lens that has a longer flange focal distance than the minimum bellow "extension" + adapter you are using + flange focal distance for the camera you are using.
I got infinity focus on my Nikon body with an old 6x9 lens, a Novar taken from a Zeiss Ikon camera. You can see the details of "adapter" on my blog.
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jjphoto
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:14 am Post subject: |
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jjphoto wrote:
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I might be wrong, but i don't think that focal lenght has anything to do with focusing to the infinity. To get this you need to use a lens that has a longer flange focal distance than the minimum bellow "extension" + adapter you are using + flange focal distance for the camera you are using.
I got infinity focus on my Nikon body with an old 6x9 lens, a Novar taken from a Zeiss Ikon camera. You can see the details of "adapter" on my blog. |
That's exaclty why enlarger and large format lenses will give you infinity.
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wrep
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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wrep wrote:
I had completely missunderstood how tilting works! I Was tilting up before  but the key to sucess is downtilt!
The monster with the camera attached
The first goodlooking picture (image clickable for full res)
Now I have to do some more experiments to learn how to get it really sharp
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kds315* wrote:
How about a Scheimnpflug Calculator Click here to see on Ebay
or read this http://www.trenholm.org/hmmerk/VuCamTxt.pdf it is from a View Camera, but the principle is identical of course!
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rawhead wrote:
Or read this page, which has a free Scheimpflug calculator at the bottom
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/tilt-shift-lenses2.htm
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greg
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greg wrote:
Interesting how the same result can be had with different construction methods. I did the same thing by using the bed from an old folder that had rise and tilt.
Nice work, both the hardware and the circuit board. |
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edwardf
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edwardf wrote:
How about a video showing how it works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR4m70xr9mE |
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