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Attila
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 Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:52 am Post subject: Seagull VS Rolleiflex T |
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Attila wrote:
I got to try before sell these cameras from friend of mine , exciting comparation isn't it 
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:13 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
What lens does the Seagull have? I'm guessing a triplet of moderate quality.
Be interesting to hear how the experiences of using the two differ, the Seagull might be more pleasant to use. 
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aspen
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:41 am Post subject: |
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aspen wrote:
I haven't tried either one, so I'm interested!!
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Attila
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I advance I think Rollei will be superb awesome sharp , detailed, must have from a Carl Zeiss Tessar lens.
Seagull my guess will be acceptable like a 35mm film scan even if medium format.
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Attila
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Today I used them same time. I tell only Seagull experience , due everybody no Rolleiflex is excellent.
Loading , bottom closing solution , better than most Yashica or early Rollei. Finder is nice clear. Pleasant to use it.
Counter not works well on my camera shows half positions after 6 frame, focusing reach infinity at 3m 
Shutter is deadly accurate. Overall I am impressed errors I think fixable.
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Well that is sort of good news. I would guess that the lens would be fair to good, but I doubt excellent.
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
| martinsmith99 wrote: |
| Well that is sort of good news. I would guess that the lens would be fair to good, but I doubt excellent. |
Me too.
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Elmar Lang
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Elmar Lang wrote:
Hello,
many years ago -I think in 1979 or even earlier- a well-known italian photo magazine ("Fotografare") published a test of three economic TLRs: the Soviet Lubitel and two chinese ones: the "Pearl River" and the "Seagull". The third one is the camera that gave the best results.
In the past years, I've had one and used it for a while: of course, the mechanisms weren't as smooth as in a Rolleiflex/Rolleicord, but the results were all of a very good or even very fine quality.
I've given it to a friend of mine and I've been told that he still uses it satisfactorily.
With a Seagull, there is at least, no fear of having it stolen!
E.L.
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
There are a few Seagulls on ebay most of the time, I was surprised to see they attract quite a few bids and go for quite high prices - 40-50ukp. For that money I could have a Yashica TLR.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
| There are a few Seagulls on ebay most of the time, I was surprised to see they attract quite a few bids and go for quite high prices - 40-50ukp. For that money I could have a Yashica TLR. |
Shooting comfort is better with Seagull than Yashica at least I like it better
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
That is good to know
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visualopsins wrote:
When I saw topic subject "Seagull VS Rolleiflex T" I thought "Attila has new bird!"
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
| visualopsins wrote: |
| When I saw topic subject "Seagull VS Rolleiflex T" I thought "Attila has new bird!" |
I have one love she is not allow to get another bird we are a couple for a life
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
http://forum.mflenses.com/seagull-tlr-fomapan-100-fomadon-lqn-t54245.html
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MTHall wrote:
I have a Yashica A a completely manual TLR, that works really well, Yashica Mat 124G coupled meter, crank wind, takes 120*12 and 220*24. Both are superior to the seagull that I had, it worked quite well and gave quite good pictures, the winding mechanism always was harsh, film handling was poor, did tear a film sometimes!! of the three it had the best viewfinder screen. I still lust for a Rolieflex 2.8 G or F planar I'll only say it once, because it makes me dribble! The Yashica TLR's were always better finished than their Chinese counterparts
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Nesster wrote:
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| I still lust for a Rolieflex 2.8 G or F planar I'll only say it once, because it makes me dribble! |
Dribbling and drooling is hazardous when using a TLR, therefore I avoid the Rolleis...
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