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Rumour - Zeiss to make a 70-200/2.8 for DSLRs?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nikos wrote:
Orio wrote:
Nikos wrote:

Damn you, Orio! (AGAIN)
I have started searching for the 100-300 on eBay Laughing

Laughing
Sorry! Razz Rolling Eyes
Good luck in finding one - not many of them made, it's not an easy to find beast (and usually those who have it, keep it)

This time you cost me 670€, including the Contax metal hood however Evil or Very Mad
The lens seems to be in perfect condition, so the price is very acceptable.

Now I need to sell my Canon 70-200 f/4 and my Canon 300mm f/4 Laughing
If it is as good as my 35-70 Vario-Sonnar (the MTF says it is even better),
next time we meet I am going to kiss you Very Happy


It's a great lens, congrats! Please share some photos once you've used it in anger Smile


PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ManualFocus-G wrote:

It's a great lens, congrats! Please share some photos once you've used it in anger Smile

I blame you too Graham! Not only Orio Evil or Very Mad
Your photos from the Sidmouth festival were amazing.
They reminded me the quality and 3D of the 35-70 VS, and this was more than enough to start searching.


PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Haha thanks Νίκος, it's not an easy lens to find but it is absolutely first class Cool


PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ManualFocus-G wrote:
Haha thanks Νίκος, it's not an easy lens to find but it is absolutely first class Cool

Do you recall how much you paid for this one?


PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
£620.00 including postage and a lot of import tax Sad It's still great value though Smile


PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Himself wrote:
It should weight less than Canon.
No IS, no USM.
I assume too that the price will be in $5000 range.


I was wrong. 4X wrong.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/04/16/carl-zeiss-launches-70-200-compact-tele-cine-lens

No rebates whatsoever. Shocked


PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
compare prices of ZF.2 versus CP.2 lenses, you won´t be so surprised.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
From the description: "With a weight of only 2.8kg the lens is also a good addition to smaller and lighter HD video and cine cameras and ideal for hand-held operation.", now i know everything is relative, but... Rolling Eyes Smile

Tomas


PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Himself wrote:
Himself wrote:
It should weight less than Canon.
No IS, no USM.
I assume too that the price will be in $5000 range.


I was wrong. 4X wrong.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/04/16/carl-zeiss-launches-70-200-compact-tele-cine-lens

No rebates whatsoever. Shocked


Shocked Rolling Eyes Shocked
Do you think it is going to sell?
Of course it is clear that the target group is not DSLR users, so it could even be regarded cheap by the target group...

Anyway, it would be interesting to compare this lens to Canon's 70-200 f/2.8 IS II,
which is very impressive for a Canon lens (and more than 1 Kg lighter).


PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nikos wrote:
Do you think it is going to sell?

those lenses are rented to moviemaker


PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Poilu is right. There is a market for it but no DSLR user.
I'm talking guys like us, small budget people.
Otherwise, whoever has the money to buy the 300/2.8 Zeiss Super Apo will buy this one too.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Its actually not that bad for a 2.8 cine zoom. Canon's upcoming cine lenses are about double that price.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sirrith wrote:
Its actually not that bad for a 2.8 cine zoom. Canon's upcoming cine lenses are about double that price.

Will they have AF?
Even so, AF is not very popular in movie making, AFAIK.
So why would someone pay double the price to get Canon glass instead of Zeiss ??


PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I could get a good car or two good motorbikes for that money!


PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nikos wrote:
So why would someone pay double the price to get Canon glass instead of Zeiss ??

expensive Canon lenses are good, if they are twice the price they must be top quality
look the 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, not cheap but it make great pics with pop


PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
poilu wrote:
Nikos wrote:
So why would someone pay double the price to get Canon glass instead of Zeiss ??

expensive Canon lenses are good, if they are twice the price they must be top quality
look the 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, not cheap but it make great pics with pop

I have the 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, poilu.
It has, indeed, the most image pop of all Canon lenses I have used.

And it has AF and image stabilization.
With cine lenses, AF and IS are not relevant.
So how could Canon justify the price premium?
Zeiss lenses are not lemons, as we know here Smile


PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nikos wrote:
Sirrith wrote:
Its actually not that bad for a 2.8 cine zoom. Canon's upcoming cine lenses are about double that price.

Will they have AF?
Even so, AF is not very popular in movie making, AFAIK.
So why would someone pay double the price to get Canon glass instead of Zeiss ??

I think no AF.

But then again they aren't 70-200 2.8's which I assume is a fairly easy zoom range to make, they're going to be 14.5-60 2.6, and a 30-300 2.95-3.7, both of which will cost $47,000.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sirrith wrote:

But then again they aren't 70-200 2.8's which I assume is a fairly easy zoom range to make, they're going to be 14.5-60 2.6, and a 30-300 2.95-3.7, both of which will cost $47,000.

This makes more sense.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nikos wrote:
Sirrith wrote:

But then again they aren't 70-200 2.8's which I assume is a fairly easy zoom range to make, they're going to be 14.5-60 2.6, and a 30-300 2.95-3.7, both of which will cost $47,000.

This makes more sense.

Never thought I'd ever see anyone say a $47,000 camera lens made sense! Laughing


PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
tomasg wrote:
From the description: "With a weight of only 2.8kg the lens is also a good addition to smaller and lighter HD video and cine cameras and ideal for hand-held operation.", now i know everything is relative, but... Rolling Eyes Smile

Tomas


This description still lacks "affordable"...


PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
fermy wrote:
This description still lacks "affordable"...
from view of hobbyist, yes it lacks. from view of professional filmmaker, depends.. Wink
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